Hamas, Israel, and the Future of Gaza: A Conversation with Ahmed Fouad Alkatib (Part 2)
Unpacking Israeli History
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🗓️ 25 March 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, I'm Noam Weissman and you're listening to Unpacking Israeli History, the podcast that takes a deep dive into some of the most intense, historically fascinating, and often misunderstood events and stories linked to Israeli history. |
| 0:12.3 | As always, I love hearing from you. |
| 0:14.3 | So shoot me a note, email me, hit me up, be in touch with me. |
| 0:19.0 | Noam at Jewishunpack.com. |
| 0:21.0 | If you listen to last week's episode of unpacking Israeli history, you already know |
| 0:26.1 | what I'm about to say. |
| 0:27.5 | This week's episode is a part two of such an important conversation that I had with |
| 0:33.4 | my friend Ahmed Ful al-Al-Qatim. |
| 0:35.7 | If you're new and you didn't listen to part one, first of all, it's very strange to listen to |
| 0:41.7 | part 2 of something that has a part 1. |
| 0:44.8 | So what you should do is go back to Part 1 and then listen to this episode. |
| 0:49.7 | But if you need a refresher, Ahmed is a member of the DC-based think tank, the Atlantic Council, |
| 0:55.9 | and a frequent pundit and critic of Hamas, along with Israel and U.S. policy. |
| 1:01.7 | In this episode, I want to do the following. |
| 1:05.5 | I want to focus on the present, how we got to the present, and the future of Gaza. |
| 1:11.6 | So let's dive in. |
| 1:12.8 | Yala, let's do this. |
| 1:16.0 | We, the people of Israel, are prepared and anxious to meet the representatives of our neighbors without any preconditions. |
| 1:35.3 | There are people in Israel and elsewhere say it's impossible to make peace between the Arabs and Israel or the Jewish people. |
| 1:43.4 | I think they're home. |
| 1:46.8 | Ahmed, welcome back. |
| 1:48.0 | Thank you for having me again. |
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