Halima Gosai Hussain & Giles Goddard - Two Faith Traditions, One Journey Toward Love and Justice (N351)

Nomad Podcast

Tim Nash

Christianity, Faithshift, Deconstruction, Christianmysticism, Religion & Spirituality, Christianspirituality, Progressivechristian, Christian, Religion, Emergingchurch

4.7 • 658 Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Halima Gosai Hussein is the former chair of the Inclusive Mosque Initiative. Giles Goddard is an Anglican priest and author of Generous Faith. On paper, their backgrounds could hardly be more different. But their paths converged through a shared commitment to inclusion — Giles in the work of building an open and affirming church, Halima through her leadership with the Inclusive Mosque Initiative.

In this conversation, they reflect on the faith they inherited, the shifts and struggles that reshaped it, and what it means to remain rooted while reimagining what faith can be. They speak with honesty about belonging and exclusion, the tensions of staying within a tradition that can wound, and the unexpected common ground they’ve found across theological, cultural, and historical divides.

This episode is an invitation to eavesdrop on a rare kind of dialogue: one that isn’t about winning an argument or defending a position, but about curiosity, respect, and shared hope for a more loving, just, and spacious spiritual landscape.

Conversation starts at 15m 19s.

This conversation was recorded at Morley Radio studio.

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0:00.0	The
0:07.0	The Welcome back to Nomad Podcast. I'm Tim Nash, and this is Joy Brooks. Good morning. We were going to
0:43.4	record this at 8am, but we had to move it to 9.15 because Joy needed to squeeze in a therapy client.
0:49.9	How did the session go, Joy? Yeah. You've now caused my confidentiality panic to kick up, but nobody could possibly know who it was, hopefully.
1:04.1	I don't think I'm the one to say how it went.
1:06.1	I think they would be the ones to have to say.
1:08.3	Do you feel like the client's making good progress, though?
1:11.2	I am not comfortable with this line of talking.
1:14.9	Any transference or counter transference that needs addressing, do you think?
1:19.0	I think maybe they would be the best judge of all of those questions.
1:24.2	Okay, so putting that to one side, Joy.
1:26.8	Thank you.
1:27.5	Anything else kicking off in the Brooks household that you'd like to say with the listener?
1:31.6	Preparing for Greenbelt is kicking off in the Brooks household.
1:35.3	And it strikes me as really unfair that in a household that's currently five of us,
1:41.7	that even though packing is my nemesis and packing for camping is my
1:45.9	arch nemesis, but I think I am still the best placed one to do it. And it's like, oh, maybe this is
1:54.4	proof that there isn't a god. Yes. So my head is full. There is mild panic. However, my offspring are adults and they do help me. And I think I just need to update that. I think some of the panic might be left over from when they were kind of seven, five and three or something like that. And possibly my brain needs to catch up to the fact that, yeah, they're 1921 and 23 currently and capable human beings.
2:20.8	Anyway, I'm going to switch the focus from me to you now, I think. How are things going for you?
2:25.8	Very good. Yeah, I'm still kind of clinging to the dying embers of the refreshment I felt from
2:30.2	last week's holiday. We had a most excellent time in Northumberland. Many castles,
2:35.9	many caves, many beaches. It's a beautiful part of the world, isn't it? It's first time we've been
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