This is Democracy Now, Democracy Now.org, the War and Peace Report.

I'm Amy Goodman.

As we continue our conversation with Hagaimatar, Israeli journalist, activist, executive

director of 972 magazine, former conscientious objector who refused to serve in the Israeli

army. You just wrote a piece in the

Nation magazine. That's the gist of the headline is, are we doing enough to deal with what's

happening right now in Gaza? There was a piece that Orrin Ziv wrote in 972, your publication,

Just Out, We Must use every tool to resist

Israeli teens jailed for refusing military service. You're a conscientious objector yourself.

Talk about your own decision when you made it and the state of the movement of conscientious

objectors today in Israel?

Sure.

So I refused a very, very long time ago, actually together with my colleague, Orrin Zeev,

in 2002.

I had spent two years in prison back then for refusing the draft.

That is quite unusual.

Most teens that refused the draft would go to prison for about three to four months.

That is what is likely expected with the recent refusers.

How old were you?

At the time, I was 18.

Why two years?

Well, we're talking about the height of the second intifada.

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