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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Guy Shahar and Melinda Edwards, MD: “Sensitivity Is at the Heart of Autism”

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2025

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

In part one of this two-part conversation in our Being Open podcast series, Tami Simon speaks with Guy Shahar, the author of Transforming Autism, for his unique perspective on how we can best connect with and support our family and community members in the neurodivergent population. Most of us have a general sense of how difficult it can be to raise an autistic child. In Guy Shahar's case, this already challenging path took a new turn when he discovered, at age 46, that he is also on the spectrum. 

Give a listen as Tami and Guy discuss: educating the parents and caregivers of autistic children, three keys to connecting with autistic children, flexibility and play, the intuitive capacity of autistic children to tune in to our energy and intentions, altruistic and idealistic values, the shift from anxiety to faith, how people on the spectrum can serve as spiritual and evolutionary guides for humanity, self-worth and self-acceptance, depathologizing neurodiversity, how autistic and non-autistic people can learn from each other, helping someone recover from overwhelm, the spiritual gifts of individuals on the spectrum, and more.

 

In the second part of this special episode on Being Open, Tami Simon speaks with Dr. Edwards about the overlooked gifts of autism and the unique capacity for people on the spectrum to experience—and point neurotypical people toward—the interconnection at the core of our lives. Autism is often described as a lack of connection. As a psychiatrist and the mother of an autistic daughter, Dr. Melinda Edwards holds a contrary position. "My daughter wasn't disconnected," reflects Dr. Edwards. "Her symptoms were often a reflection of a deep connection.. 

Discover: the limitations of the term "neurodiversity"; the "exquisitely sensitive, exquisitely porous" nature of autistic people; bringing your sensitivity into the world; vulnerability, openness, and the trajectory of human evolution; the paradox of boundaries for people on the spectrum; compassionate support; three ways of experiencing the world: physically, psychologically, and from a place of interconnection; pronoun problems; getting past the stereotypes we have about autistic people; the connection between trauma and truth-seeking; the spiritual path of parenting an autistic child; and more.

 

Note: These interviews originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com. 

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Sounds True Podcast Network.

0:05.7

The number one thing I would say is to let go of our agenda as a parent and to

0:11.4

just meet the child where they are.

0:15.0

They don't have those layers of protection and walls that most of us have that separate us from other people.

0:27.1

Welcome to being open, spirituality and the neurodivergent mind, a special Insights at the Edge

0:35.9

series. I'm Tammy Simon. Over the past several years, I've become

0:41.2

aware of how my own mind doesn't seem to function in ways that are considered neurotypical or

0:48.9

neuroconforming. In fact, today, more and more people are being labeled as being on the spectrum.

0:57.6

It's a label that certainly comes with challenges.

1:01.4

Potentially, it also comes with gifts, capacities such as sensitivity,

1:08.6

empathy, and out-of-the-box thinking.

1:11.8

And I wonder, is it possible that there's a connection between being on the spectrum,

1:18.4

having a wide or porous mind, and having easier access to the spiritual, the transcendent

1:27.2

dimension, that which is boundless and undivided.

1:32.3

Could neurodivergence teach us about the spiritual journey and perhaps even accelerate our spiritual evolution?

1:42.3

These questions and more are what we're exploring in being open,

1:48.5

spirituality and the neurodivergent mind.

1:52.0

Thanks for joining us.

1:57.7

In this episode, I talk with two remarkable guests on neurodivergence and parenting

2:04.2

and how their autistic children challenge them to grow in unexpected ways

2:10.4

and why they've become advocates now for reframing how we look at autism.

2:16.9

And now here's my conversation with Guy Shahar.

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