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Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. My guest today made a

dramatic career switch last year, which surprised erstwhile

colleagues. Gullner-Ibit was a Turkish academic and political analyst who'd held a string of

prestigious university posts and fellowships in the UK and the US as well. But in 2017, she was

invited to join the Turkish government as a senior

advisor to the country's long-serving and dominant leader, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Ms. Ibit is now one of

the most visible and powerful defenders of a president whose determination to impose his will on Turkey

has led critics to talk of a new era of authoritarianism.

They point to the tens of thousands of political opponents arrested,

the record number of journalists and civil society activists imprisoned,

and the severe limits placed on freedom of expression.

Ironic then, that in the last couple of months, Turkey has been in the forefront of condemnation

of another regional power, Saudi Arabia, for its flagrant violation of human rights and

international norms.

The reason, of course, the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi

inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Turkey has used the ensuing crisis to assert its interest

and its moral authority. But how much of the latter does Ankara really have? Well, Gurdner Aybet joins me now. Welcome to Hard Talk.

Let us start with the case, the shocking, horrible case of Jamal Khashoggi. Is there more that Turkey

intends to say and to do to get justice for Jamal Khashoggi?

Well, there's an investigation that's still going on,

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