Guilty — But Here's What the Verdict Didn't Settle
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
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🗓️ 20 March 2026
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
A jury convicted Kouri Richins of murdering her husband Eric with fentanyl. She's going to prison. And still — the questions that don't fit neatly inside a courtroom verdict keep coming. Listeners have been flooding in with what's still bothering them, and Tony Brueski and retired FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke are working through the ones that matter most. Carmen Lauber gets immunity. The woman who sold Kouri the fentanyl that killed Eric walks free while Kouri heads to prison for life. Does that math add up? Then there's the defense's case — the allegations of investigator misconduct, the coercion claims — and the fact that a jury convicted her anyway. What does that tell us about how much any of that actually landed? Robin brings his behavioral lens to the post-verdict moment: what is happening inside Kouri Richins right now, and does someone capable of this level of sustained deception ever truly reckon with what they've done? These are the listener questions that survived the verdict — and the ones Tony and Robin aren't letting go without an answer.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Drey. |
| 0:08.6 | Corey Richens is convicted. |
| 0:11.0 | The jury came back and now she's heading to prison for killing Eric. |
| 0:14.7 | The trial is over, but the questions are not, as we're learning in our comments section. |
| 0:39.4 | And I don't blame you. We got a lot of questions, too. And that's what we're going to do today on the program. We're going to go through Q&A live with you guys. I got some that I grab from your comments. So we're going to hit those. But if you have comments about this case, thoughts you want to share, drop them in live, and we will try to get to them as we work through this. |
| 0:40.7 | We're going to talk today about the case here of Corey Richens. |
| 0:45.4 | We're going to talk the latest on Nancy Guthrie. |
| 0:47.5 | And we're also going to talk about the Kelsey Fitzsimmons case as well. |
| 0:51.8 | So lots to get through. |
| 0:53.1 | Robin Drake, retired FBI special agents, former chief of |
| 0:55.8 | the counterintelligence behavioral analysis program with us as always. Welcome, Robin. His book is out |
| 1:01.2 | this week. It's not all about me. It's big book week launch. And wherever you get, |
| 1:07.0 | wherever you get your books, Amazon, whatever it is, be sure to go and put an order down. |
| 1:12.8 | And just tell a million of your friends since my daughter's wedding is May, so. |
| 1:16.7 | Yes, tell your friend. It makes a great wedding gift, you know, right there. |
| 1:23.1 | Oh, the stories I could tell about that, yes. Just give that to everyone. Yeah. |
| 1:27.4 | But it's a great book. So please do check it. All of his books are wonderful. If you like Robin, if you listen regularly, and you can't get enough Robin in your life, there's plenty more books to get through. I mean, honestly, I mean, size, I'm listening to this one for a second time right now. Oh, and very much... |
| 1:44.5 | You know, I never really equated the things I wrote years and years ago or even not too |
| 1:49.5 | far ago because I worked in the world of counterintelligence behavioral analysis. |
| 1:54.0 | But when we're looking at all... |
| 1:55.3 | I'll throw it out the first time of the day. |
| 1:56.6 | When you're looking at all the nutters in the world, oh, my God, all of this is completely |
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