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Father Gregory, we've got a special episode here. God's playing wherever you listen to your podcast.

Father Gregory, we've got a special episode here,

as you could tell.

And listeners, if you are merely listeners and not viewers,

head to, you need to be viewers now for a moment

because this is a guest explaining episode with

Professor Ward. Professor Ward, thanks for being with us. Really happy to be here.

Now Professor Ward, why I say to switch to video is because he has like Salvador Dolly, a very distinctive facial feature.

His mustache or mustache is spectacular and brings the glory to God as far as I can tell.

So switch, do not do if you're driving the car right now do not do not switch to video for this but when you get home check it out but

Professor Thomas Ward is with us to talk about his new book on Skodes, which we get to, but a little before that, I suppose.

Professor Thomas Ward is the, is professor at the Department of Philosophy at Baylor University in Texas,

Waco that is, and has degrees from Oxford.

So you hear a lot of English sort of sounding things

in Tolkien and Lewis, I'm'm sure in the background.

Also from University of California in Los Angeles,

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