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Hey guys, Annie here.

Ella, as well.

And fun fact, before I made a science podcast, my first ever job in radio was actually at a

rock and roll talk show.

Yeah, kind of different than what we do.

Musicians as guests a little bit different than scientists as guests.

Like, I've never had a scientist come to an interview with a portable laser show.

What?

Or keep their shades on for the entire conversation like Debbie Harry of Blondie did.

Classic.

Like, of course she would.

But the musician who made the biggest impression on me and my extremely short career in rock journalism was not someone who is particularly famous. His name is

Robert Schneider. Robert Schneider is the frontman of the successful indie band, The Apples and

stereo, also a fantastic record producer. And what really struck me about him is, well, first of all,

this guy talks a mile a minute, just like, no, no, no,

like his words are trying to catch up with his fabulous brain that's already like down the

block away. And he's super crafty and DIY. He's making these amazing lush records with, you know,

busted up tape machines that he found at a yard sale and boom boxes.

Anyway, a few years ago, I read that Robert Schneider had ditched his music career to become a number

theorist.

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