Guantanamo debacle continues (with Carol Rosenberg and Jeh Johnson)
Skullduggery
Michael Isikoff, Daniel Klaidman, Victoria Bassetti
4.0 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 19 July 2021
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
It has been just about twenty years since the opening of Guantanamo Bay and we are no closer today than we were back then to resolving what will go down in history as one of the biggest debacles in American history. After the recent news that Chief Guantánamo Prosecutor Gen. Mark Martins announced his surprise retirement, what will be the next steps in relieving the stalemate preventing things from moving forward? The families of those lost in the horrific attacks on 9/11 are sitting on what is now two decades worth of frustration with no end in sight. Carol Rosenberg, reporter for The New York Times, who's been covering Guantanamo since the beginning joins to put forth her solution. Then, Former United States Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson, weighs in on the matter in addition to the withdrawing of US Troops in Afghanistan.
GUESTS:
- Carol Rosenberg (@carolrosenberg), covers Guantánamo Bay, the base, policy, prison, people and war court for The New York Times
- Jeh Johnson, Former United States Secretary of Homeland Security
HOSTS:
- Michael Isikoff (@Isikoff), Chief Investigative Correspondent, Yahoo News
- Daniel Klaidman (@dklaidman), Editor in Chief, Yahoo News
- Victoria Bassetti (@VBass), fellow, Brennan Center for Justice (contributing co-host)
RESOURCES:
- Rosenberg latest article on Guantanamo - Here.
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| 0:00.0 | As the country prepares to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the 9-11 terror attacks, |
| 0:07.5 | there is one huge piece of unfinished business still outstanding. |
| 0:12.2 | The perpetrators of the attacks, College Shake, Muhammad and his Confederates from Al-Qaeda, |
| 0:17.5 | have yet to be brought to trial. |
| 0:20.0 | For years now, they have been languishing in Guantanamo Bay, caught up in an endless legal |
| 0:25.1 | wrangling over how and when a military commission trial can bring them to justice. |
| 0:31.6 | The Military Commission trial set up to try them, suffered another blow last week when |
| 0:35.7 | it was learned that Mark Morton's long-time chief prosecutor for the military commissions |
| 0:40.4 | had resigned, reportedly over a dispute over whether statements made under torture could |
| 0:45.6 | be used in the proceedings. |
| 0:47.7 | So as we approach September 11, 2021, the long-awaited trial of the perpetrators of the worst |
| 0:53.4 | terrorist attack in American history is nowhere, no lee prosecutor, no judge, no trial |
| 1:00.0 | date. |
| 1:01.0 | We'll discuss what went wrong with Carol Rosenberg in the New York Times and then with |
| 1:05.6 | Jay Johnson, the former chief counsel at the Defense Department, who had pushed to preserve |
| 1:10.2 | the Military Commission system on this episode of Skull Duggery. |
| 1:14.8 | I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United |
| 1:23.6 | States. |
| 1:24.6 | I will to the best of my building. |
| 1:25.6 | Reserve, protect and defend. |
| 1:27.6 | Constitution of the United States. |
| 1:30.0 | So help me God. |
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