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Goldman Sachs Exchanges

Growth and Geopolitical Risk

Goldman Sachs Exchanges

Goldman Sachs

Business

4.41K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2019

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

The market has once again been gripped by recession fears at the same time that geopolitical and policy risk is flaring up. Some of these risks—like the US-China trade war—are feeding recessionary fears, while others—like the attack on Saudi oil facilities that led to the largest ever daily disruption in oil supplies—have gone almost unnoticed. And this is despite the fact that oil shocks were one of the most common causes of recession historically. Whether this complacency is warranted, and the vulnerability of the economy and markets to this and other geopolitical shocks, is Top of Mind. In this episode, Goldman Sachs’ Head of Energy Research Damien Courvalin explains why the oil market is much better positioned to deal with supply outages today, and thus is a less likely recession trigger than in the past. But the Council on Foreign Relations’ President, Richard Haass, and Columbia Professor Richard Nephew explain why instability looks set to rise in the Middle East and beyond.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

From Goldman Sachs research, this is Alison Nathan.

0:03.0

Welcome to Top of Mind, a podcast that explores macroeconomic issues on the minds of our clients.

0:14.0

In this episode, we're taking a look at geopolitical risks around the world and their impact

0:23.7

on the global economy and markets.

0:26.4

As recession fears loom, some of these geopolitical risks are fueling growth worries.

0:31.9

The major example of this is, of course, the ongoing U.S.-China trade war, a topic we've

0:37.0

explored in several recent episodes.

0:39.6

On the other hand, one of the largest geopolitical shocks in recent memory, namely the

0:44.8

unprecedented attack on Saudi Arabia's oil infrastructure that resulted in the biggest daily

0:50.4

disruption in oil supplies in history, has gone almost unnoticed by markets.

0:55.9

That's despite the fact that oil shocks historically have been one of the most common causes of

1:00.9

recession, and the already substantial disorder in the Middle East only looks set to worsen,

1:06.7

as tensions have intensified in many parts of the region, at the same time that the United States seems to be walking away from commitments that have helped shore up regional stability.

1:16.6

Whether the market's response to recent developments in the Middle East is warranted, and just how vulnerable the economy and markets are to these and other geopolitical shocks is top of mind.

1:30.3

To understand why the market's response to the recent oil disruption was so muted, I first

1:35.6

turned to Goldman Sachs' head of energy research, Damien Cuervilleen.

1:39.8

He explains that despite the historically large size of the disruption, the oil market is much

1:45.0

better positioned to deal with supply outages today than in the past. That's true even

1:50.5

relative to a year ago when the market was facing another big disruption, the loss of Iranian

1:56.1

oil supplies, after the U.S. walked out of the 2015 nuclear deal and imposed sanctions on Iran.

2:03.0

The Saudi disruption was roughly twice the size, but had a much smaller price impact.

2:08.1

Here's why.

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