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The Atlas Obscura Podcast

Grittiness and Romanticism in New York and Paris

The Atlas Obscura Podcast

SiriusXM Podcasts & Atlas Obscura

Society & Culture, Places & Travel

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 13 September 2022

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

Whiting Writer’s Award, Best Literary Criticism award winner, and author of several critically-praised books, Lucy Sante speaks with host Dylan Thuras about digging into place and how our relationship to places can shape our identities. To check out Lucy Sante’s work, please visit: https://lucysante.com/

Transcript

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0:00.0

When I was in my 20s and I first moved to New York, I found this book about the history

0:06.5

of the city, or a particular period of it, the kind of late 1870s, that just captured

0:12.2

my imagination.

0:15.0

There's one section in particular that I have always remembered, and it was about a street

0:19.8

called the Bloody Angle, Doyer Street in Manhattan, it's in Chinatown, and it was a place

0:25.1

where former boxers opened saloons, where gangsters wore chainmail and carried hatchets and

0:33.2

had epic battles.

0:36.2

It was where Irving Berlin once worked as a singing waiter at a dive bar.

0:41.8

After I read the book, I would go out of my way to walk down Doyer Street whenever I was

0:46.4

in Chinatown, because walking down this short little crooked street, I could imagine all

0:51.6

the people that had lived there, what their lives had been like.

0:54.3

It turned the city into mythology.

1:00.6

That book was called Low Life.

1:02.2

It's not an exaggeration to say that Low Life was a deep inspiration for the early days

1:07.8

of Alice Obscura.

1:09.6

And through Low Life, I could see New York as not a place dominated by the Empire State

1:15.8

Building or Times Square, but as a place where every little street, every little building

1:21.5

was alive with small, personal, strange, fascinating stories.

1:28.2

Just had to take the time to look for them.

1:38.2

I'm Dylan Therese, and this is Atlas Obscura, a celebration of the world's strange, incredible

1:42.7

and wondrous places, and today on the podcast, it is my true joy to speak with the author

1:48.2

of Low Life, Lucy Sont.

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