In a press conference yesterday, Donald Trump said he would consider using military force to take

Panama and Greenland and said, all hell will break loose if Israeli hostages are not returned

by the day he takes office.

That would be January 20th, 2025.

We need a new system.

We need a new society. We need to demand that which may have sounded impossible even a few weeks ago, but is not

only realizable, but an imperative necessity. Welcome to the Socialist Program. I'm your host, Brian Becker. Today we're talking with

Eugene Per Year. Eugene is an author. He's an organizer and activist. He's also the co-host of the

Freedom Side Live that is on Breakthrough News every Thursday between 3 and 5 p.m. Eastern,

Eugene, welcome back.

Thanks so much for having me.

It's quite remarkable on the eve, almost the eve of Trump coming back to office, that he's

taking office because four years ago, almost to this day, he was in disgrace.

He was at the bottom. He seemed to be done for, politically

finished, at least after the overrunning of the Congress by a mob inspired by him, many of whom

were actually carrying weapons, led by fascist forces like the Oathkeepers, the proud boys. Not

everybody was a fascist, but there were certainly fascist forces. the Oathkeepers, the proud boys. Not everybody was a fascist, but there

were certainly fascist forces. The U.S. military, the Joint Chiefs of Staff a week later on January 12th,

2001, sent a letter to all 1.3 million members of the U.S. Armed Forces saying what happened on

January 6th was sedition and insurrection and don't be involved

in trying to overturn elections because it's against the law. Anyway, this was a moment of grave

crisis for Donald Trump, and he's back. He didn't only win the electoral college. He won the

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