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[GREATEST HITS] James Clear: How Small Daily Actions Compound Into Life-Changing Wealth [RERUN]

Afford Anything

Paula Pant | Cumulus Podcast Network

Investing, Business, Entrepreneurship

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

#638: Fifty dollars. That's how much this couple transferred to their "Trip to Europe" savings account each time they cooked dinner instead of going to a restaurant. By year's end, they had funded their dream vacation — not through budgeting or willpower, but by hacking their habit loop. This story illustrates how James Clear approaches habit change. Clear joins us to explain the four-stage cycle that drives every behavior: cue, craving, response, and reward. You see a restaurant (cue), predict it will be convenient and tasty (craving), eat out (response), and satisfy your hunger (reward). Repeat this loop enough times and the behavior becomes automatic. Clear translates these four stages into four laws for building good habits: make it obvious, make it attractive, make it easy, and make it satisfying. Want to break a bad habit? Flip the script — make it invisible, unattractive, difficult, and unsatisfying. We explore practical strategies like habit stacking, where you attach a new behavior to an existing routine. Clear suggests saying "After I make my morning coffee, then I will review my budget for two minutes" rather than relying on motivation alone. He explains temptation bundling — pairing something you need to do with something you want to do, like only listening to your favorite podcast while meal prepping. The conversation covers why most people focus on outcomes when they should focus on identity. Instead of saying "I want to save 10,000 dollars," Clear suggests thinking "I want to become a saver" — then asking what actions a saver would take daily. Clear addresses the challenge of delayed gratification with money habits. Saving feels unrewarding in the moment because the benefits come later. He shares techniques for creating immediate satisfaction, like the couple's Europe fund or using habit tracking to mark small wins. THIS EPISODE IS FROM OUR “GREATEST HITS” VAULT, AND ORIGINALLY AIRED IN 2018. ____
 Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising run times. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (0:00) James explains four habit stages (5:22) Cue and craving examples (8:47) Four laws of behavior change (11:05) Making habits obvious through environment design (14:56) Habit stacking with existing routines (16:12) Travel and changing contexts (18:58) Temptation bundling strategies (25:21) Motivation rituals and triggers (29:52) First ad break ends (33:11) Habits of avoidance challenges (39:10) Social reinforcement and tribes (41:09) Making habits easy through friction reduction (44:03) Delayed gratification and immediate rewards (54:16) Second ad break ends (57:16) Making habits satisfying (1:03:01) Commitment devices and accountability (1:08:35) Identity-based versus outcome-based habits Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Today we're bringing back one of our most popular episodes, my conversation with James

0:05.1

Clear about atomic habits.

0:07.6

In this conversation, he shares strategies that will transform the way that you approach

0:12.3

any goal that you set, whether it's make more money, spend less, buy a rental property,

0:17.7

be more attentive to your investments, whatever goals it is that you have,

0:22.0

habits are the foundational building block.

0:25.7

No one is better at breaking down those building blocks to their most atomic level,

0:32.2

their most smallest, most foundational level.

0:35.3

No one is better at that than James Clear.

0:38.5

Welcome to the Afford Anything podcast, the show that knows you can afford anything, not everything. This show

0:42.6

covers five pillars, financial psychology, increasing your income, investing, real estate and

0:46.9

entrepreneurship. It's double-eye fire. I'm your host, Paula Pant. I'm sharing an episode today

0:51.9

that originally aired in 2018. This is from our greatest hits

0:55.8

vault. So if you discovered this podcast after 2018, you likely have never heard this

1:01.6

conversation. And if you were listening back then, first of all, thank you for being such a

1:06.1

long-time listener. And second of all, you heard this seven years ago. When you were dealing with completely different

1:12.8

life circumstances, you were a completely different person seven years ago. And the habits that

1:17.7

served you in 2018 and the challenges that you were dealing with back then might be completely

1:22.6

different today because today's goals require different systems. So whether you're a long-time listener or

1:29.8

whether you've just discovered us, I think you're going to get a lot of value from this

1:34.2

conversation. James reveals a four-stage cycle that drives every behavior that you do, from

1:41.2

checking your phone to saving money, and talks through this four-stage

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