Grass Will Not Grow on the Path between Us

A New History of Old Texas

Brandon Seale

Arts, Cabeza De Vaca, The Alamo, Battle Of Medina, San Antonio Missions, Texas, Mexico, Gutierrez-magee, Education, Comanches, Apaches, Society & Culture, San Antonio, Courses, Philosophy, History

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🗓️ 4 January 2024

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Episode 11 of Brandon Seale's podcast on the Lipan Apaches. The Lipan Apaches become proxies for a Texian guerilla war against northern Mexico, until Texian policies cut them off from their lands and their livelihoods. Ever adaptable, the Lipanes flip the script, relocating to their old haunts in Mexico and raiding Texas property. The Texas-Mexico border itself – and the freedom it offers – becomes an artifact of enduring Lipan resistance during these years. The annexation of Texas, however,...

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0:00.0	Welcome to Lipon Apocalypse.
0:18.9	Episode 11, grass will not grow on the path between us.
0:23.2	I'm Brandon Seal.
0:26.1	Quote, tears rained down the old man's face while sobs fairly shook his frame, end quote.
0:34.2	That's how Noah Smithwick described Lipon Captain Flacco the Elder's reaction to the news of his son's death.
0:42.5	His son, Flaco the Younger, had burned down in the Lipon idiom,
0:47.9	though that makes it sound like he died of natural causes or something.
0:51.7	He most definitely had not.
0:57.7	He had been sent on January 1, 1843,
1:06.2	to drive a Texian army's captured horse herd from Laredo back to San Antonio. His body was found along the Medina River a week later, around the same time that his horses showed up in Sigein, along with
1:12.2	his saddle blankets, and his personal Ramuda. Realizing what had happened and worried about the
1:19.1	Lipon reaction to the murder of the, quote, flower of their tribe, end quote, Texas officials
1:24.5	went into spin mode. Publicly, they blamed Mexican bandits for Flacco's murder.
1:31.1	And or other Indians, they never quite got the story straight.
1:35.0	But in private, Texas officials knew that Flaco had been murdered by a pair of Anglo-Texians.
1:41.3	They even knew their names, Tom Thurnon and James B. Revis.
1:46.2	No charges were ever brought, however. It was, in Smithwick's words, quote, one of the most
1:51.9	pathetic incidents in the history of Texas, end quote. Describing his response to Flacco the Elder's
1:58.6	reaction, Smithwick could only write, quote,
2:01.2	I felt how useless words were in such a crisis.
2:04.7	I could only express my sympathy by the tears that welled up to my own eyes, end quote.
2:10.9	And Smithwick offered the elder Flacco poem.
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