Welcome to the ringer NBA show. I'm Chris Varnay and joining me. He does every Tuesday

from the ringer.com is Kevin O'Connor. Kevin, today is one of those days that I think

like many shows have said, you never expect that you are going to be talking about the subject

that you are talking about. It has been a few days since the passing of Kobe Bryant

and no matter what you are doing, whether you are watching any kind of a screen, whether

it is your phone or whether it's your television or whatever it may be, the tributes have continued

and the celebration of his life has continued and yet the grief has clearly still continued

throughout the entire NBA community. If you can, let's start with where were you on Sunday?

Because I think it's one of those things, people have these moments in their life where

they will never forget where they were. Where were you? I was just home taking care of my parents,

just helping out here and saw the TMZ report out there and I'm like, there's no way this is real.

There's no way, not Kobe. Just how young he is right now. He's only 41 years old. There's just no

chance it's real. The more news that came out, the more and more real it felt and the more and more

heartbreaking it felt. I've never personally felt this affected by any celebrity death or

death of an athlete. Part of that is because of who Kobe was. He just always felt invincible.

He was always somebody who kept coming on the court. He's somebody who put his all into pursuing

his dreams as a player and mastering his craft and after a player with what he did with the

documentary that won the, what would the short film that won the Oscar with his media company that

and with the detail he had on ESPN with everything that he was doing with his foundation off the

court. He was somebody that always went full pursuit of his dreams. It just seemed like not Kobe. But

then when you hear about the fact that he was with his daughter, Gianna and the fact that her teammates

and other families were on their plane just trying to take their kids to do something that they love

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