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listening. Terms apply. Hi, this is Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist,

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Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. This is Laura. This is episode 204, which is airing in late June

of 2021. This is going to be a graduation-inspired episode of advice

we would give our 20-year-old selves or sometimes our 30-year-old selves. Sarah had a lot of

graduations. I had far fewer. But we will, you know, talk about things, you know, our new

graduate self were into and doing and what we think of that now. But Sarah,

what graduations do you most remember? I remember my college graduation very vividly. I think

just it probably felt like such a huge milestone, like the stepping stone towards adulthood or

something, because I remember

cleaning out my dorm. I remember seeing everyone's parents. I have like vivid imagery of some of the

people who lived in this little house on campus, like kind of what they looked like on that last day.

Like clearly that imprinted really hard. And every graduation I had after that, I remember very little. So I don't know.

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