Many people will regard those believers in Jesus who have different doctrinal leanings than they do with a sense of suspicion, and that's a temptation for us.

Sometimes that suspicion may be warranted, but many times it may not be. We may be unduly suspicious

or unduly skeptical of others. Welcome to the Crossplay podcast, a show where we sit down with

authors each week for thoughtful interviews about the Bible, theology, church history, and the

Christian life. I'm Matt Tully, and today I'm talking with Gavin Ortland. Gavin serves as senior

pastor of First Baptist Church of Ohio in Ohio, California.

He's also the author of Finding the Right Hills to Die on, the case for Theological Triage

with Crossway.

Today, Gavin and I discuss what to do when you disagree with another Christian on some point of doctrine.

He shares his thoughts on the pros and cons of

having theological debates on social media, highlights the importance of theological humility

when engaging with people who think differently, and explains why the metaphor of triage

can be helpful when thinking about the relative importance of different doctrines. Let's get started.

Well, Gavin, thank you so much for joining me again on the Crossway podcast.

Hey, great to be with you. Thanks for having me.

So I want to open with a question, a more personal question for you.

If you can think back over the last, I don't know, maybe say 12 months or so,

what's a significant doctrinal disagreement that you've had

with another Christian? And what happened? What did that disagreement look like? And where did it

happen? And kind of what was the result? Well, one of the things that we're working through as a church is a study on the

doctrine of creation. We got a grant from the Henry Center at Trinity Evangelical Divinity

Divinity School to study that doctrine for this school year, and that's been an awesome blessing.

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