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Women and Crime

Grace Millane

Women and Crime

Cloud10

True Crime, Social Sciences, Science, Society & Culture

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Ep 268: A young backpacker’s disappearance in New Zealand would lead to a massive change in how their media covers violence against women. This is the Grace Millane story. Sources for Today's Episode: • DOCUMENTARY THE LIE • The BBC • NZ Herald • The Standard • blog — We Can't Consent To This • www.lovegrace.co.uk • Aeoteoroa ( Owa-te-aroa) New Zealand Social Work (Journal) Sponsors: (thanks for using our promo codes, it really does help the show!) Chewy - Chewy has everything you need to keep your pet happy and healthy. And right now you can save $20 on your first order and get free shipping by going to Chewy.com/women. Minimum purchase required. New customers only. Terms and conditions apply. See site for complete details. Credits: • Written and Hosted by Amy Shlosberg and Meghan Sacks • Produced by James Varga • Audio Editor, Jose Alfonzo • Script Editor, Abigail Belcastro • Music by Dessert Media Get Even More Women&Crime Episodes: • Patreon - Ad-free shows starting at $2 a month, or upgrade for $5 a month to get a new extra episode every month, as well as exclusive virtual HappyHours with Meg & Amy. Check-out other tiers for perks such as lectures, true crime book club, and more! Visit our Patreon page for more info: https://www.patreon.com/womenandcrime • Apple Subscriptions - Exclusive episodes and ad-free regular stories are now available through Apple’s podcast app for only $4.99 a month, or save with an annual membership. • YouTube Memberships - Exclusive episode available on YouTube for only $4.99 a month. https://www.youtube.com/@WomenandCrime/membership Help is Available: If you or someone you know is in a crisis situation, or a victim of domestic, or other violence, there are many organizations that can offer support or help you in your specific situation. For direct links to these organizations please visit https://womenandcrimepodcast.com/resources/ Keywords: backpacking, Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

A young backpacker's disappearance in New Zealand would lead to a massive change in how their media covers violence against women.

0:10.1

This is the Grace Mullane story.

0:26.5

Hi, Amy. Hi Amy and hello listeners.

0:30.4

Hi, I heard you say New Zealand. You know I love New Zealand. You haven't been, right?

0:36.2

No, because we, why have I not been to New Zealand? Too long of a flight. Yeah, too long,

1:11.6

went, way, too long of a flight. So pretty there. You would love it. The wine is so pretty. I mean, the wine is so good. The wine is so good. That's one of those slips. One of those slips. No. I would love to see New Zealand. So it's like one of those places I feel like I could get there and I just wouldn't come back. So maybe I'll save it for like, yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying maybe I'll save it, you know, for like Winnihanas a little older. But yes, we are covering an international case today in more ways than one, actually. Grace Malane was from England and the crime we're talking about happened in New Zealand. So covering a lot of territory here. I watched a documentary on this case and while it was very focused on police work

1:18.2

and the critical CCTV footage of the investigation, there were also some surprises and policy

1:25.1

changes that made me think this was a good case to cover because you know that

1:28.3

I do like also policy analysis as one of my... What's a documentary called? The documentaries called The

1:34.6

The Lie, the Murder of Grace Mullane, and it's on Netflix. I'll reference it again at the end.

1:39.6

I found it very interesting, and it's one of those where you get to see a lot.

1:45.3

You're not just looking at people outside of the investigation.

1:48.6

You're looking at the CCTV footage, police interrogation.

1:52.2

So I think that's why I found it interesting.

1:54.8

But before we get to all of that and the discussion, let's meet Grace Mullane.

1:59.7

Born in the Brentwood District of Essex, England,

2:02.8

Grace was the third child, an only daughter, born to parents Jillian and David in 1996.

2:09.5

She was a very happy and outgoing young woman with a very tight and loving family, and you can just

2:15.4

tell how close they were, even from looking at pictures.

2:18.5

In 2018, Grace graduated from University of Lincoln with a degree in advertising and marketing.

2:25.4

And before looking for work, Grace decided to have a fun gap year by traveling the world, starting in South America and ending in New Zealand.

2:34.1

Did you ever have a gap year?

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