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🗓️ 30 August 2025
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Maryland Governor Wes Moore has overseen one of the steepest homicide drops in America. Baltimore, long plagued by 300-plus murders a year, has seen killings fall more than 40 percent since 2023. In this archived conversation, Moore explains how a data-driven, all-of-the-above approach—boosting local police, investing in technology, and supporting victims—helped reshape the city's fight against violent crime.
Plus: Mike Pesca's spiel takes on the bizarre press orbit around Laura Loomer, a figure whose influence is as erratic as her antics. From dog food taste-tests to Shakespeare protests to depositions about Arby's, coverage of Loomer often reveals more about the media's hunger for spectacle than about her.
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| 0:00.0 | It's Saturday. It's the Saturday show. We have one from the vault and one from the week for you. |
| 0:08.5 | From the week, I did a spiel about Laura Lumer, really about the coverage of Laura Lumer. |
| 0:13.1 | So many spills I do turn into press criticism. But it is a public service. Let's say you didn't read all those stories about Laura Lumer. |
| 0:20.3 | You could just listen to my spiel. |
| 0:22.1 | You could read it on my substack. That'd be substack.mikepescat.com. So, you know, all I'm trying to do is |
| 0:28.0 | serve the public. As is Wes Moore, who is the governor of Maryland. He was in the news this week |
| 0:34.3 | when Donald Trump said that Moore whispered to him, you're the greatest president of my lifetime. |
| 0:39.4 | Moore did not say that. |
| 0:41.1 | To get a sense of what Moore said, I'll bring you more, more from our conversation of almost |
| 0:46.3 | exactly a year ago. |
| 0:48.6 | And it is on the subject of murder, which Baltimore, the biggest city in his state, |
| 0:53.4 | has seen a lot of, but has also |
| 0:55.3 | seen an historic drop in. And that is relevant to so many stories in the news. I talked a lot |
| 1:03.4 | about the Washington, D.C. decline in murder rates being, yes, declined from last year or the |
| 1:08.6 | year before, but still incredibly high. Baltimore is doing a lot |
| 1:13.0 | better than Washington. So they were at an even higher murder rate per capita, but you have to |
| 1:19.0 | give them credit. And here's what the latest trends show. Baltimore has seen an historic drop in |
| 1:25.5 | homicides, a 22% decrease this year compared to last. |
| 1:31.3 | And last year, and you'll hear this in my interview with Moore, was also a pretty good year. |
| 1:36.2 | I mean, Baltimore, which used to have 300, 400 murders a year, might finish the year with 143. |
| 1:45.0 | So I'll talk about that and you'll get a sense of Governor Westmore of Maryland, I noted that he is not an advocate for |
| 2:09.2 | striking down the Second Amendment. He served our country and carried firearms. He knows firearms, |
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