Brian there on WNYC, and now we turn to New Jersey, where Governor Phil Murphy also gave his

state of the state address yesterday. It's his seventh and final, as he is term

limited out. So it's very different context than Governor Hockel, who's trying very hard to get

reelected next year. And you might say Governor Murphy took a victory lap on a few things,

property tax relief, education funding, raising the minimum wage.

So it was maybe more of a legacy speech.

We'll take some New Jersey callers too.

Maybe now is when we start.

Or how did Phil Murphy do in two terms as governor stretch?

But he started a speech by saying he's not planning on kicking back in his final year.

Our jobs are not done, not by a long shot.

And during this final chapter of our journey, our absolute top priority, as it has been, I might add, since day one,

is delivering economic security and

opportunity to every New Jerseyan.

And yesterday, the governor outlined his set of priorities for before he leaves office, including

reform that he thinks would help build more affordable housing.

They're obviously talking about this in both states and all around the country.

A cell phone ban in schools, reducing traffic fatalities, and protecting reproductive rights.

Joining us now to break down what that governor had to say is Terrence McDonald, editor at New Jersey Monitor. Hey, Terrence, thanks for coming on WNYC today. Morning, Brian. Thanks for having me on. And listeners, we can take some of your actions to yesterday's state of the state address in New Jersey. Maybe you want to reflect on what you think Governor Murphy has done well or maybe done poorly. What do you think his legacy might be? Or maybe you want to look forward. What do you think about any of

these proposals? What do you hope the governor will do in his last year that maybe he didn't

mention? 212-433. WNYC, 212, 433-9-62, call or text. And Terrence, as you know, the biggest issue in New Jersey

so frequently and consistently has been the state's high property taxes. So before we get

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