This is CBS On The World. I'm Tom Batcher with Victor Davis Hanson of the Hoover Institution.

His book The Second World Wars informs me to look at Ukraine as a territorial dispute

as a border war between two European states, Russia and Ukraine. The NATO participation

is with arms. We saw a similar participation by the United States in 1939 to 1941 when

Britain stood alone against the German Russian alliance that was signed by Ribbentropin

Molintov, Molintov in 1939. However, here we are in another century, and the reaction from

political candidates is refreshing at the same time instructive. Victor, you've mentioned

Governor DeSantis hesitating about Ukraine and what he will do as president if that happens.

I identify at least two, perhaps three factions in the Republican Party. I wonder if you'll

comment on them. One is the Neocons. We know them well. I'm probably one of them. They tend

to be boomers and they talk about applying military force and deterrence in order to keep

the peace. Another is the called the new right of the new conservatives who are reluctant

to continue to fund, to promote, to arm a conflict that does not bring existential

risk to the United States. And then I suppose a third faction would be we're out of there.

It's none of our business. Can you sort this out on the Republican Party today because we

have a headline, at least the headline from London, that Kevin McCarthy is talking about

blocking more funding for Ukraine in the Republican House. How is the party responding to this

in your measure? I think it's responding pretty wisely. Of those three groups, I think two

are inert. The Neocon idea of going in and I supported the attack on the retaliation

in Afghanistan and Iraq. But the idea that the United States is going to go into the Middle

East or anywhere and fight a preemptive war and then stay on and build a country. I think

it died with the withdrawal from Afghanistan, humiliating withdrawal or the misadventure in

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