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GOP Senators Call Out Trump on the Shutdown

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Society & Culture, News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Sam Stein and Will Saletan take on the Republicans break amid Trump's shutdown on Sunday shows as they call out his lack of participation in helping re-open the government, and Scott Bessent fumbles through defending the shutdown and condemning Canada for Ronald Reagan ad.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein. Managing out the Bullwork. I'm here with Will Salatin, and we're going to be talking about Scott dissent, tariffs, trade, the government shutdown and whether Donald Trump should be involved. All the things that happened on the Sunday show that you probably were smart enough not to watch, but we were not smart enough to skip. Because this is just our life, well. All right, so, well, you were watching him on the Sunday show. There are a few clips of other Republicans I want to get to in a second, but what was your main takeaway from percent? First of all, I got to mention, you know that Scott is not just the Treasury Secretary, he has another job. Soybean farmer. Yeah, he's a soybine farmer. He's a struggling soybean farmer, yes. I'm kind of offended because do you, Sam, on social media, do you get called a soy boy?

0:42.8

I get called a soy boy.

0:44.1

I have every now and then, but I also am a soybean farmer, so I take it.

0:50.0

Well, I just want people to know all you people on Twitter, Scott Besson is an actual soybean farmer.

0:56.0

So don't call me a soy boy. Sorry, let's pause for a second. I didn't know that, first and foremost. There's no way he's out there plow in the fields, okay? What is he talking about? Does his company invest in soybeans? I don't know. I'm sure there's some hedge fund investment he has in some sort of like Monsanto type agriculture company that has some soybean product out there. And so he's now a soybean farmer. I just don't believe he's actually a farmer. Oh, I'm sure he's like a vicaria. He's a landowner, first of all, but he's not even a direct landowner. Like, he probably never sees this stuff. But I spend my whole, all my time, like, deflecting and muting people who call me a soyboy. Here's a guy who's claiming soy cred, who doesn't even have anything to do with the soybeans. A legit soy boy. He wants to be a man of the land, a man of the people. Yes. He did say, I feel your pain. All right. So other than that, what impressed you or offended you about Scott this morning?

1:47.3

Okay, so Scott Bassett had, he did like three interviews. You know, administration officials, some of them get to sleep in on Sunday. Some of them go out and see their kids' soccer game. One schlub always gets sent out to do a bunch of shows. That was him. He did three shows, I think, today.

2:01.5

The one that's really interesting to me was meet the press. He got asked a whole series. He basically

2:05.0

had to clean up for Trump on a series of topics. And the first one was about tariffs and the situation

2:12.3

of Canada. This week, President Trump abruptly broke off trade talks with Canada and put another 10%

2:20.3

tariff on Canada in response to an ad that the government of Ontario ran. It features former

2:27.5

President Ronald Reagan. Why is the president setting trade policy based on a television ad he doesn't like?

2:36.7

Well, Kristen, let's think about this. This is a kind of propaganda against U.S. citizens.

2:43.2

You know, it's Psiops. Why would the government of Ontario, I'm told that they've spent,

2:49.5

they have spent, or we're planning to spend up to

2:52.1

$75 million on these ads to come across the U.S. border. So what was the purpose of that other

3:00.4

than to sway public opinion? And, you know, it's some kind of propaganda. It's unreal.

3:06.6

Unreal. Like, honestly, when I saw that Trump had done it, I did some kind of propaganda. It's unreal. Unreal. Like, honestly.

3:08.4

When I saw that Trump had done it, I did a double take.

3:12.4

Like, you literally are going to raise tariffs on an entire country because you saw an ad and you didn't like it.

3:17.8

I mean, this is just the most childish crap.

3:20.4

I cannot believe it happened.

3:22.1

And then I can believe it, actually.

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