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GOP Sen. Ron Johnson explains why he opposes Trump’s budget in its current form

PBS News Hour - Segments

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🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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One of the biggest sticking points in the Trump budget bill is its projected impact on the national debt, a concern shared by several key Republican lawmakers. Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson is among them and he joined Geoff Bennett to discuss why. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

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0:00.0

Several key Republican lawmakers share the concern about the impact the budget bill will have on the national debt.

0:07.3

Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson is among them, and I spoke with him earlier today.

0:12.0

Senator Johnson, welcome back to the News Hour. Thanks for having me on.

0:15.8

You have called this bill immoral. You've said it's grotesque. Strong language, what specifically do you find so

0:22.2

offensive about it? No, that's not how I refer to the bill. I've referred to the fact that we are

0:28.4

mortgaging our children's future as immoral and grotesque, and the level of debt that we've

0:34.1

accumulated and that we continue to accumulate. So that is immoral.

0:39.3

What we are doing to our children, how we are robbing them of, you know, the opportunities

0:46.9

and diminishing their prospects, that's truly immoral.

0:50.5

And we need to recognize that fact.

0:51.8

We need to stop it.

0:53.3

Well, the Congressional Budget Office, as you well know, now estimates this bill would add

0:57.0

$2.4 trillion to the national debt over the next decade.

1:01.1

The White House says that number is misleading, and they say that you have your facts wrong.

1:05.9

Here's what the press secretary said earlier this week.

1:08.9

But Republicans, like Ron Johnson and Rand Paul disagree.

1:11.6

They are saying that it will add to the deficit.

1:13.6

That is their concern.

1:14.6

Is the White House's position that those two Republican senators are, quote, blatantly wrong?

1:19.6

It is.

1:20.6

Those senators, it's not news that they disagree with this president on policy.

1:24.6

And the president has vocally called them out for it and for they're not having their

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