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Finding Genius Podcast

Google Artificial Intelligence: DeepMind's Irina Higgins Talks about the Field

Finding Genius Podcast

Richard Jacobs

Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.41K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2020

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Irina Higgins works to develop effective artificial intelligence models for Google's DeepMind project.

She explains some essential tenants and goals, including

After finishing her PhD in neuroscience, Irian Higgins went into the tech world instead of academia and is part of Google's team that works at DeepMind, their artificial intelligence arm.

She describes their work as a mix between academia and industry. Their mission is to build something that can solve any task at least as good as any human can. However, she explains that while there's a large group of researchers who think that we just need to put together single AIs who can perform one task and see what they can do in combination, she comments that such systems are still brittle—a little bit of noise can throw the whole algorithm off.

She adds that given how the complicated the natural world is, she doesn't think we can come up with enough narrow AIs to handle problems. At this point she brings in her neuroscience, trying to create a model able to make unsupervised transfers of learning as the brain does.

For example, we as humans understand the abstract notion of a paddle and a ball and keeping the ball in the air and can transfer those ideas to another game. She adds that if we can get a computer to do that same transfer, that's a huge leap forward. She further describes some of the ways she's trying to get to that point.

To keep up to date in this field of research, she recommends following blogs in the discipline, such as Google's DeepMind blog: https://deepmind.com/blog, and finding AI research scientists on twitter. 

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0:33.0

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0:35.0

Hello, this is Richard Jacobs with the Finding Genius Podcast.

0:41.0

I have Arena Higgins, she's a senior research scientist at Google's deep mind.

0:46.6

We're going to be talking about the AI that they're working on there and what's new and interesting about it.

0:51.7

So Irina arena thanks for coming

0:53.4

thank you for having me yeah so what's a little bit of your history how did you end up

0:59.0

working for Google and deep mind it was a bit of a convoluted story actually. I studied psychology for my

1:06.2

degree and a computational neuroscience for my PhD but I wasn't actually so sure I want to stay in academia.

1:14.0

So during my PhD I explored a lot of careers.

1:18.0

I did about five internships.

1:20.0

I actually was pretty seriously considering going into finance and working as a quant.

1:27.0

But at the very last moment, my friend recommended that I try tech instead.

1:32.0

So I applied to Google and got into a Google research

1:35.5

internship and that was just about the time when they had acquired deep mind so

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