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🗓️ 26 September 2025
⏱️ 11 minutes
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After 25 years at NPR and 10 years hosting All Things Considered and the last few years hosting Consider This, Ari Shapiro is moving on to his next adventure.
We’re saying bye.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, consider this listeners. You're probably wondering why you're hearing me instead of one of your hosts. |
| 0:06.3 | This is Matt Ozug, by the way. I'm a producer who helps make this podcast, and also its broadcast cousin, All Things Considered. |
| 0:13.3 | Well, today, our news is about one of those hosts, Ari Shapiro. After 25 years at NPR, and 10 years hosting all things considered, and the last few years hosting this podcast, Ari is moving on to his next adventure. |
| 0:29.6 | So I've been thinking a lot about the work he and we have done. |
| 0:33.8 | Ari and I have worked together all around the world, reporting from a temple at dawn. |
| 0:38.3 | It's a little before five in the morning. |
| 0:40.3 | And from the top of a wind turbine. |
| 0:42.3 | I am staring down hundreds of feet. |
| 0:45.3 | Wow. |
| 0:46.3 | And I'm always struggling to keep up. |
| 0:48.3 | Ari walks fast, talks fast, writes and reads fast, |
| 0:51.3 | but the story I will always associate with him is the first one we did together, in Toledo, Ohio. |
| 0:58.2 | We interviewed some college-age guys living together in a group house. |
| 1:01.7 | Three of them were recent graduates from the University of Toledo. |
| 1:04.5 | Mohamed Rafai is a butcher from Syria. |
| 1:06.9 | They had just taken in a Syrian refugee. |
| 1:09.5 | My name is Muhammad. |
| 1:10.8 | Muhammad Rafai has big, dark eyes, black hair, and a shy smile. |
| 1:16.1 | Are these the only people who call you Mo? |
| 1:18.4 | That was in 2015. |
| 1:20.1 | Nobody else calls me that, he says. |
| 1:23.9 | Ari kept in touch with Mo. |
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