This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batchler. I welcome David Livingston, Dr. Space of the

Space Show. This is Hotel Mars Episode N, and we're very pleased to welcome a distinguished

editor and author, Rod Pyle. Author most recently have Space 2.0, how private space flight

of resurgent NASA and international partners are creating a new space aid. However, today

we address space settlement. It's imminent. We have Elon Musk tweeting that he'd like to

rename Boca Chica, Texas into Starbase, Texas. We have a success of starship landing as

it should, and we have reasons to go forward. Rod is also heavily associated editor as in

the National Space Society's magazine ad Astra. Rod, a very good evening to you. I asked the

first question here. Why go in to space colonies? Why space colonies? And I read an editorial in

your most recent magazine ad Astra that suggests it's for resources. What resources, Rod? Good

evening to you. Good evening, and thanks for having me on. Great to be here. There are a lot

of resources out there. As you'll see quoted often in our magazine, there's many, many,

many times the resources, some of the most desirous ones that we've used commonly in modern

society in space and are on Earth. A lot of them are tied up in the asteroids, some

rod on the planets in the moon. The one that we're looking at most covetously now is simply

water. Not that we don't have plenty of water on Earth, although that's going to be something

that we'll be looking at as a desired resource within the next 50 to 100 years, because there's

less of it than there used to be in terms of freshwater. But the reason you want to find

water in space is that it's really expensive to launch it off the Earth, many, many thousands

of dollars per pound. And when you could find it in places like the Moon and Mars, that's

great because it's in a much lower gravity well. And you can use the water that you find

out there to make rocket fuel and breathable oxygen and so forth. And that's really one

...