Speaking of Goldman, are you concerned

about the leadership and strategy?

And how will that affect the overall economy?

Yeah, that's right.

It reminds me a lot when it was like team name,

shoutout to the day versus Jay.

There's a lot of NFI to end Goldman right now.

On direction, on the market's product didn't work

when it was trying to do retail banking.

And I think, but there's a lot of proxy fights.

Please write this down.

When the economy isn't good,

that's when your enemies are gonna really try and surround you

and get you out of their seat, out of jealousy.

It's fine when the economy is going well,

but there are narratives that are created.

And that's one thing that Kathy was talking about,

like they'll say things that were not true about her funds

and drive the fund down to then take the clients,

use the same strategy as other firms

that had an innovation fund after hers

and post her clients after they had to press

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