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Welcome to the Kindled podcast. I'm your host, Haley Williams. The heart behind

Kindled is to help moms use their gifts for God's glory and their good. We'll chat with

real women who are learning how to do this very thing as they navigate motherhood, work,

and the grace we need for both. This heart to heart is always had over a cup of coffee and usually paired with a business

pep talk.

We hope you'll find practical advice and the encouragement you need to work well and live more.

Hey guys, welcome to episode 13 of Kindled.

Today I am talking with Gloria Furman.

Gloria is an author and writes for several websites including the gospel coalition and

Desiring God and some others.

She is a mother of four and a pastor's wife and they live overseas in Dubai where they have lived for 10 years.

And they pastor a church there.

I was really excited to talk with Gloria because she's an author of lots of books that are

really amazing and just filled with truth.

But also because I was just excited to learn from someone who has so

much wisdom, and you really sense that it is flowing out of her when you're talking with her,

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