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🗓️ 10 December 2025
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Julia and Eliza are back in the stu for a deep dive into hostile architecture, unpacking the spikes, slopes, bars, and billion-dollar "design choices" that quietly shape our cities and public spaces. In analyzing bisected benches, shadeless streets, and the Evil of Robert Moses, the girlies consider what it means to live in a world built to restrict movement and community. Digressions include the sacred magic of knitting tutorials, NYC's food poisoning themed Erewhon, and Eliza staying bricked up.
This episode was produced by Julia Hava and Kylie Finnigan and edited by Livi Burdette.
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Cities Are Spending More to Brutalize Homeless People Than It Would Cost to House Them
Examining Anti-Homeless Architecture
Fortress LA by Mike Davis (excerpt from City of Quartz)
Hostile Architecture: Behind the Buzzword
Hostile Architecture in the United States: Productive or Harmful?
How Valuable Is Public Space? Priceless, Argues a New Book by Setha Low
Jane Jacobs, a Rebel with a Cause
Setha Low | Why Public Space Matters | Fast Forward 2022
The Economic Value of Health Benefits Associated with Urban Park Investment?
The Highway That Sparked the Demise of an Iconic Black Street in New Orleans
The Power Broker by Robert Caro
Understanding Hostile Architecture: The Cause and Effect of Restricting Public Space
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Binchotopia. We hope you enjoy your stay. |
| 0:14.8 | Hi everybody, welcome back to Vinchotopia. Hello and welcome back. I'm Julia Hava and I'm here with |
| 0:20.6 | Eliza today. Oh my God. Hey everybody. Hi Julia. So happy to have you back. So excited about this episode. It's going to be a real one. It's going to be a big one. It's going to be a really big one. You're wearing a beautiful sweater that you did. As soon as you came in, I was like, I'm so impressed. Thank you. I'm really impressed. I know you're like it's easy, but I don't think it's that easy. |
| 0:40.0 | I will say anybody who's like dabbled As soon as you came in, I was like, I'm so impressed. Thank you. I'm really impressed. |
| 0:39.9 | Like, I know you're like, it's easy, but I don't think it's that easy. |
| 0:54.7 | I will say anybody who's like dabbled and knitting knows of the sacred magic, which is, of course, Florence Miller's step-by-step sweater. Is she like the sweater woman? She's the woman. Like, every yarn store I've ever walked into. if I'm like buying yarn because like this has happened because I've tried to make it a few times and I'm like yeah I'm just looking for like a worsted weight I'm like trying to knit my first and they're like Florence Miller step by step sweater oh my god is she like the yoga by adriette yes no totally totally well the thing is it's just very revolutionary because it's a free like it's a pattern but, but it's also a video. So you can like, |
| 1:11.0 | if you don't know how to read a pattern yet, I don't really know how to read. I feel like I would get really scared of the pattern. I did get scared of the pattern for sure, but she helps you understand like when something is written in a pattern what it means. Okay. So now you can read a pattern? Yeah, a bit, a bit. I've read a few patterns. I'm still learning. |
| 1:27.9 | It just like, it looks so professional. Thank you so much. |
| 1:31.1 | Yeah. So now you can read a pattern? Yeah, a bit, a bit. I've read a few patterns. I'm still learning. |
| 1:28.0 | It just like, it looks so professional. |
| 1:30.1 | Thank you so much. Like the neck too, like the V, like how did you do that? It took me a long time. It was many months. But I want to encourage everyone. And I think even you, Julie, I think you can do it. You seem to think that it is so hard and you couldn't do it, but I think that you really did. |
| 1:44.0 | I mean, I know I can knit, but like every single time I would fuck it up and have to pull out the whole row and re-knit it. And I was like, I can't do this anymore. I totally understand. Once I learned how to undo just one stitch without having to undo the entire row, things, something should do. Which is something that I need to learn. Well, we'll just, you'll come over and then we'll work together. And then if you mess up, then I'll be like, here's how you can. |
| 2:04.5 | I think that's it. things something shift it, which is something that I need to learn. Well, we'll just, you'll come over and |
| 2:01.1 | then we'll work together. And then if you mess up, then I'll be like, here's how you can. I think the thing I like about doing like knitting or crocheting is that you can kind of do it passively. And like, my anxiety is like, oh my God, if I have to like pay attention to a video the whole time, I'm going to get really stressed about it. |
| 2:15.4 | It's more of like she's like, okay, here's how you do this next section. |
| 2:18.9 | And then you go and like knit that section for like a few. I mean, the other thing too is that it takes forever. Like I started the sweater in the summer. Yeah. And like really. Yeah. I mean, also I got faster as I got going. But I feel it probably took me like 30 hours to do the whole thing. Wow. Which is like a lot. |
| 2:34.4 | It's honestly faster than like I would think it might take. But to be honest, it like has really helped with my doom scrolling. Like I'm sure. I told you about my little brick that I got. Yes. Yes. Which like actually locks me out. I like, Max, I like to say I was bricked up. You were bricked up. I was bricked up all of last week. |
| 2:51.4 | Wow. |
| 2:51.6 | I was totally bricked. |
| 2:53.2 | And then whenever I wanted to say I was bricked up. You were bricked up. I was bricked up all of last week. |
| 2:51.5 | Wow. I just, I was totally bricked. And then whenever I wanted to do, I was bricked beyond belief. And then whenever I wanted to do something with my hands, because honestly, I realized half of it is just needing something to do with your hands. And then I just started listening to audiobooks and knitting. |
| 3:07.0 | It's hard to watch TV in it. |
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