You are listening to the Goberge podcast.

I want to get to the lull in the defense, but overall, I think, you know, my big takeaway

last night, you know, Ganon is frustrating at times with the decision making all that.

But like the biggest thing that I think about with this defense, and again, we'll get into

the 17 points out of nowhere.

But the biggest thing I think about with this defense is, is teams can go a long way with

defenses that forced turnovers like at this rate.

Like if they can get to, and this is an insane rate, but if they can continue to force

turnovers, makes up for a lot of issues.

Well, my favorite stat currently in Philly sports is the Eagles have like only, they've

created as many turnovers as touchdowns they've allowed.

Like they're more like what's I've did.

I did a lot of turnovers.

I it's an insane amount.

I mean, I think they're at 12.

I was going to say it's double digits, which is nuts.

It's 16.

They're at 12.

I can't remember if they're at 12 touchdowns.

I'm like four things already.

It's insane.

But like if you're going to be a defense that's just as likely a creative turnovers, you're

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