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Top Traders Unplugged

GM09: Mistakes from the past to guide us forward ft. Lyn Alden

Top Traders Unplugged

Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

Business, Business News, Investing, News

4.8670 Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2020

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

We are very pleased to welcome Lyn Alden to the studio today, the founder of Lyn Alden investment strategy. Lyn is from an engineering background, and hence, as you might expect, brings a logical and rigorous approach to thinking about economics and financial markets. In our fascinating conversation Lyn was able to draw on her considerable knowledge and understanding of history to inform us in thinking about today’s problems. Our discussion spanned high level thinking about multi decade trends, but also very granular recommendations for the portfolio of assets you should hold today. Topics Discussed in this Episode Long run debt cycles Deleveraging and inflation in the 1920’s and 1940’s "By the 1940s the private debt bubble was mostly worked off, but then, of course, we entered the WWII period; we had massive federal deficits as a percentage of GDP. ... In order to fund those deficits, the Federal Reserve had to take over the Treasury because there wasn't enough natural appetite for the public to buy all those treasuries. So, the Federal Reserve did something that was, basically, quantitative easing, even though they didn't call it that back then." The 2008 Great Financial Crisis “This time we have a very high federal debt and very high private debt at the same time. So, back then (1930s) we had one after the other; first, we had a private debt bubble then we had a federal debt bubble. So, they worked them off kind of separately, a decade apart. Whereas, in this time, we had a partial deleveraging ten years ago, but we did not have a deleveraging in the corporate sector. Then, of course, we've had an increase in the federal sector. Basically, we have a larger debt problem to work through...” The Wealth Effect’ vs free markets “A big difference that can actually have them “succeed” in causing inflation is that instead of a lot of this QE winding up in asset prices and winding up in the financial system, a lot of it is getting injected into the economy in the form of business loans that turn into grants and helicopter money to consumers, extra unemployment benefits...” Debt and demographics QE and inflation "You could have mid-single-digit sustained inflation with an occasional spike, especially in a yield curve control environment where they don’t raise rates to stop inflation. But, that could quickly get out of control if the global investors lose confidence in the currencies and bonds." Geopolitics and the possibility of war "You don’t want to rely on masks from China if you’re in a contest with China in a great war struggle. Even if it’s not a hot war if it’s a cold war you still don’t want most of your medicines made by your cold war antagonist." Portfolio inflation hedging Bitcoin “... it seems odd to me not to have, say, 1% in bitcoin because the market cap, right now, fluctuates between one and two hundred billion but gold's market cap is like ten trillion based on estimates for how much gold (above ground gold) exists in the world and what its current price is.” Debt jubilees “ Those supply chains for oil can be disrupted. We saw that happen in Saudi Arabia where they were attacked and they lost energy output. I do think we could see a period where we have more commodity scarcity this decade. I think there’s some of the tail risk to look out for is either certain commodity scarcity or how significantly we could have currency devaluations.” Pension fund investing in a low yield world “… there are a lot of pensions that have to own bonds… We’ve had a forty-year global cycle in lower and lower yields so bonds have had a re...

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Ever since my view in early 2020 of becoming more firmly bullish, it seems odd to me not to have, say, 1% in Bitcoin, because the market cap right now is fluctuates between 1 two hundred billion, but gold's market cap is like 10 trillion.

0:25.2

Based on estimates for how much gold, above ground gold exists in the world and what its current price is, it's like roughly 8, 9, 10 trillion.

0:32.3

Bitcoin is still a small market cap.

0:34.3

It's still a very low investor allocation to Bitcoin. Gold is like a large cap

0:39.5

store of value. Bitcoin is a smaller cap, speculative store of value. So it's not hard to see Bitcoin

0:45.1

eventually hitting a $1 trillion market cap. And it's not my, you know, I'm not saying it will,

0:49.3

but I'm saying I wouldn't be utterly shocked if one day it did.

1:02.0

For me, the best part of my podcasting journey has been a chance to refine my own investment framework through a series of conversations with extraordinary investors in every corner of the world.

1:07.0

In this series, I, along with my co-host Robert Carper and Moritz-C-Ber

1:11.1

want to continue our education by digging deeper into the minds of some of the thought

1:16.7

leaders when it comes to how the world economy and global markets really work to try

1:21.6

and learn how they think. We want to understand the experiences that have shaped them,

1:27.2

the processes they follow, and the historical experiences that have shaped them, the processes they follow,

1:29.2

and the historical events that have influenced them.

1:32.2

We also want to ask questions outside our normal rules-based playground.

1:37.0

We're not looking for trade ideas or random guesses about an unknown future,

1:42.0

but rather knowledge accumulated over the course of decades in the

1:46.1

markets to try and make us better informed investors. And we want to share those conversations

1:52.0

with you. Our guest today is absolutely brilliant when it comes to removing financial noise

2:00.5

and filter down into

2:02.3

precise and actionable information. So I'm convinced you will enjoy our conversation with Lynn

2:07.9

Alden of Lynn Alden Investment Strategy. Lynn, thanks so much for joining us today for a

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