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🗓️ 6 January 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Kronkite. Rather. Now, Dokoupil. The new anchor of the CBS Evening News is off to a rough start. First day jitters are to be expected. (Still, we didn't expect them to be so evident.) But it wasn't just style, but the substance that has caught a lot of people's attention ... including Amy and T. J.’s.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:06.0 | Hey there, folks. |
| 0:07.2 | It is Tuesday, January 6th, and give a brother a break. |
| 0:11.8 | Everybody has some first day jitters at work, |
| 0:14.8 | and that certainly seemed to be the case for Tony DeCopal on his first night as head of CBS evening news. And with that, welcome |
| 0:24.4 | to this episode of Amy and T.J. Roe was much anticipated this debut. Obviously, it was going to get |
| 0:30.8 | a lot of eyes and it was going to get scrutinized, but there seems to be a consistent, at least, |
| 0:36.3 | in all the reviews and all the writings about his |
| 0:38.4 | first day. Well, they actually used his own words to describe his first day, which is we've got |
| 0:45.4 | a big problem, already the first day, and we already have a big problem here at CBS. He gave it to |
| 0:51.5 | him. He actually said that on live television in the, at least the first feed, |
| 0:57.8 | the feed that we see here on the East Coast. It was all corrected for later feeds, which is very |
| 1:02.1 | typical and standard. He said it live. But he said it live and there was no taking it back. And yeah, |
| 1:07.6 | when things got a little funky, technically speaking, he called it out and said we've got, |
| 1:14.2 | first day already got big problems here at CBS. So yes, that was the headline. And that was a mistake. |
| 1:19.9 | And we can say that based on the industry and all the teachings and the decades we have in it. We are going to get into this now. |
| 1:27.0 | In Roads, we have to be very careful because we don't know this guy. And we certainly give him |
| 1:30.9 | whatever benefit of the doubt that he is certainly capable. So please folks understand, all we |
| 1:36.1 | are doing is giving you our thoughts about what we saw. And what is, isn't it fair to say this is CBS Evening News is the lowest rated, but maybe the most respected. |
| 1:50.9 | I mean, given the history, you talk about Cronkite and Murrow and Rather, and this was, isn't this the most important seat, even though the ratings haven't shown that over the years, recent years? |
| 2:03.0 | Yes. And you know what? A lot of people might not realize that, but within the journalism industry. |
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