GitHub's CEO says AI coding is ‘here to stay’

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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This is Alex Heath, deputy editor at The Verge. My guest today is GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke. In many ways, GitHub Copilot set off the current AI coding boom. But since Thomas was on the show a year ago, the rise of vibe coding has shifted the buzz to newer platforms like Cursor and Windsurf. As you’ll hear in our conversation, Thomas is thinking a lot about the competition, and GitHub’s role in the future of software development. Links: Developers, Reinvented | Thomas Dohmke / GitHub Developer Odyssey | Thomas Dohmke / GitHub Why tech is racing to adopt AI coding, with Cursor’s Michael Truell | Decoder GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke says AI needs competition to thrive | ⁠⁠Decoder⁠⁠ Up to 30 percent of some Microsoft code is now written by AI | Verge GitHub launches its AI app-making tool in preview | Verge Microsoft is getting ready for GPT-5 with a new Copilot smart mode | Verge Zuckerberg: AI will write most Meta code within 18 months | Engadget Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. This episode was edited by Xander Adams. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:30.6	Welcome to Decoder.
1:31.9	This is Alex Heath, your Thursday episode guest host and deputy editor at The Verge.
1:37.1	It's AI coding week here at Decoder.
1:39.2	You just heard my friend Casey Newton's interview with the CEO behind Cursor, Michael Trell.
1:45.8	And now I've got a conversation with GitHub CEO Thomas Dumka. In many ways, GitHub co-pilot set off the current AI coding boom
1:53.7	we're all living in. But since Thomas was on the show a year ago, the rise of vibe coding has shifted
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