Ginkgo Love

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2020

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In 2016, we produced an episode about the ginkgo tree titled "Ginkgo Stink." With its fan-shaped leaves and golden fall foliage, the Ginkgo biloba is a beautiful tree with an incredible history dating back millions of years. It’s also a popular street tree among urban foresters, despite the fact that some ginkgoes produce malodorous cones. The episode was meant to be a celebration of the incredible ginkgo. But the episode contained an offensive phrase and failed to consider a nonwhite perspective of this amazing species. In this episode, we’re correcting our mistake, and adding some context about what exactly we got so wrong. First, Felix Poon shares his personal relationship with the ginkgo tree and explores the history of food-related racism in the United States. Then, a new version of the original story, edited to sound the way it should have when we first produced it four years ago. Explicit Language warning: this episode contains repeated use of a swear word used in the original episode many times. It also contains an ethnic slur, spoken in the context of a conversation about racism. For those reasons, this episode may not be suitable for young kids. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Okay, I believe I'm ready.
0:04.0	I'm ready too.
0:05.0	Okay.
0:06.0	Oh, sorry, Sam, sometimes there's like cars that drive by really loudly,
0:10.0	so I'm just going to like wait briefly.
0:17.0	Can we talk about how this all got started?
0:22.0	Yeah, so... Can we talk about how this all got started?
0:23.0	Yeah, so if I recall we were having an outside in meeting about the broadcast hour.
0:29.6	And we should say for folks who are podcast listeners outside of New Hampshire, we do a broadcast hour of outside
0:36.2	in, which includes podcast content, but is a bunch of other stuff too.
0:39.8	Yeah, so, and like, we just come off the broadcast where we had a segment about racial inequality and access to nature.
0:50.0	In particular, like redlining and its effects on heat pockets or hot areas of the city.
0:59.0	And so we talked about how a big reason for that is kind of the unequal distribution of trees in a city
1:07.2	And so thinking about that and kind of at the same time, you know, this is like early June in New England you know things are falling off
1:15.7	of trees you know you have these seeds that are kind of raining down on us and kind of
1:20.5	thinking like huh like okay this is how trees propagate in nature,
1:24.6	but how do trees propagate in the city? And so we talked about trying to
1:29.3	explore that idea a little bit more. Right, and you asked us, is this a story that we've ever done on the podcast?
1:35.0	Like, is there anything that you should look back to to see what we've already said about it?
1:40.0	Right. And I think we were immediately like, oh yeah, we've got this great episode.
1:44.8	It's one of our very earliest people really liked it.
1:47.5	The Ginko episode.
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