From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

The Old Guard is director Gina Prince Bithewood's first time directing a big budget action movie,

and it's already in the top 10 most watched films of all time on Netflix.

The movie stars Charlie Stherin and Kiki Lane as Immortals, Supernatural and Very Athletic Fighters. The role is a breakout for Kiki Lane as Immortals, supernatural and very athletic fighters. The role is a breakout for

Kiki Lane, but at first, Prince Bidwood wasn't sure she was a fit for the role. This is a terrible thing

for a director, and I will never do it again. Barry Jenkins invited me to an early cut of Beale Street.

And I remember seeing her saying, wow, who is that?

She's amazing, but she's way too soft,

as opposed to she's a really good actor and actors act,

because when she came in for the audition, like, she blew me away.

Prince Bythe Wood shares how her lifelong love of superhero narratives

and another superhero project that didn't go after she spent a year and a half working on it led her to the old guard.

But first on the news banter, HBO, Not So Max.

Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my colleague in banter, Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt.

Hi there.

So, HBO, AT&T announced results for this past quarter, and they talked about HBO max subscribers.

And, you know, the number was about 4 million

that they've added in the quarter.

And that is not a very big number.

But they have, the bigger problem really is

the continuing confusion that they have generated

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