Welcome to Jimmy's Jobs of the Future. Today I'm joined by Gillian Keegan, who I think had one of the most

impressive business CVs to have ever entered Parliament. And she started as a car apprentice in Liverpool.

She's one of the few politicians who doesn't have a degree, but she rose right to the top of business

working at Mastercard and General Motors. She then made

the switch into politics and within just a few years she was the education secretary. When she lost

her seat at the election last year, it was one of the saddest results of the night for me because

I think Gillian Keegan is exactly the type of person that we need in politics. So it's great to get her on

a year after

losing her seat and get some reflections on why that happened, what she learned from being in

Parliament. And it's a great example of how business and politics can learn from each other.

She has one of the most impressive business backgrounds that I've ever come across, but also what's

particularly interesting is the way that she built her career layer by layer. And the way she explained the most impressive business backgrounds that I've ever come across, but also what's particularly

interesting is the way that she built her career layer by layer, and the way she explained it

was fascinating. On to today's episode. Make sure you subscribe so we can continue to get bigger

and bigger guests. Julian, welcome to Jimmy's Jobs in the Future.

Thank you for having me.

I remember the first time I heard your voice was in Downing Street and you were giving your maiden speech.

And it was coming out.

It was at quite a tough time for the government and for Theresa May in the wake of the 2017 general election. And I remember

it being a real kind of ray of hope in terms of what you were talking about in terms of

business needs a better reputation and all these things. And I reread the maiden speech in

advance of this. And I remember thinking this is the future. And eight years on, you had one of, I would argue,

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