Welcome back. It's the big blue banter. New York Giants football podcast. I'm Dan Schneier.

Joins is always my host, Nick Vallado. And apparently his dog Phoenix today as well. Look at that face. Look at that cutie.

He's just chilling over there, Phoenix. It's hot out boys and girls. It's hot, man. It's been just nine just nine eight nine days in a row just heat with no

break i thought a storm on saturday would change it but it did not break it so the heat is here

the off season is here we're waiting until training camp some of us are spending our time

like nick getting nice haircuts and getting himself together some of spending time like me

on a golf course and others are spending our time in strip clubs, tossing out thousands of dollars. Nick and I don't have that luxury like Leak neighbors does though. We didn't get the signing bonus. I do love how people are like, oh, no, he's out of strip clubs. A go, a 20 year old at a strip club. Go figure. Like, come on, man. What are we doing here? I mean, glad to time i remember i saw carl bank or i don't remember i saw carl banks tweet about this like he's like yeah like i we can't wait to see the overreaction the first reporter is going to ask about him ask him about this in the first day of training game but he's like then carl banks was listening off like four different places that he used to go when he was a player for the Giants. It's like, whoa, Carl, I was just like naming names and places. Like, you know, if they get that far, Carl, but I do understand the sentence. Like, these are kids. They want to have fun and they want to party a little bit and they should. It's their off time. This is, you know, time to relax. It's, you know, I'd rather him be at strip club and weak neighbors than on an ATV, okay, uh, potentially something dangerous like that.

Depending on your off time, you know, honestly, I'd rather him be at a strip club and weak neighbors than on an ATV, okay?

Potentially something dangerous like that. It's spending on your off time. You know, you can't get hurt in a strip club. You can lose money, but you can't get hurt. I shouldn't say lose money. You can spend money. You could catch something in a strip club. He's helping the college funds of a lot of young women around the country there. He's been Neville and man.

Yes.

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Look at it like that.

But Hard Knocks, episode two for the Giants is coming as well tomorrow. So we'll do a podcast covering that. I'm excited. Art Stapleton has suggested it's going to be a fun one for Giants fans. We're excited to see that. And I think that's going to help us get through to the start of training camp. But these podcasts will hopefully also help you get through. And we're going to be continuing to preview the positions for the Giants. We head into the 2024 season. We've done wide receivers. We've done running backs. And today we are doing the tight end position, Nick, which had a bit of a different feel than we expect to go into the off season because the Giants drafted a tight end, who we really liked. And another one of their tight ends retired. And that's Darren Waller. So what's your overall thought and feel on the tight end position as we had into 2024? I just find the tight end position fascinating over the last couple of years. We go back to the first year with Brian Dable. Remember it was like Ricky Seals Jones and Jordan Aiken's. We were talking about those players. Neither of them made the team at the end of the season because of injuries and Jordan Aiken's I think ended up getting waived. And then Daniel Bellinger, this rookie that the Giants drafted on day three, ended up seizing a pretty significant role. And then Tanner Hudson worked in.

Last season was like, we got Darren Waller, Darren Waller, Darren Waller, Darren

is going to be the focus of the offense along with Sequin Barclay.

That obviously did not materialize as we would have liked.

And now it's Daniel Bellinger, Theo Johnson.

It's this mixture of Chris Manhart and Jack Stoll.

It's this odd group along with Lawrence Cager who is getting a lot of hype.

Jordan Ron on, a BSPN, has said he was the biggest riser of players that were unexpected

through the offseason, the minicamp and all that.

I look at the tight end group, and it is significantly, I would say, better overall,

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