Hey folks, we're here with a very special bonus edition of the Giant Bomb Cab.

I'm Ryan Davis, Brad Shumakers here as well. And we are joined today by none other than industry

luminary and title maker Upper Ken Rollston. Internationally celebrated game designer altogether

now. Internationally celebrated game designer. I thought we were going to say sell out.

This is an in service. And Joe could could dare.

Yeah, you got it. I had close enough there. I guess he had horseshoes and hand grenades,

right? You can say thank you from now on. Joe, I'll just say Joe. Okay, Joe, we're familiar

enough. We've met each other. Ryan, Joe up to five minutes here. You're the lead combat

designer. That's right. King does of Amalor reckoning, which is what we're here to talk about

today. All right. So how's it going you guys? Like how are you feeling right now? Yeah,

you guys are close to ship. I mean, yeah, this is excitement time right now. Yeah, frenzied

you know, with excitement, you know, can't wait to see it where like little kids are playing

it and their parents are like trying to knock them away from the computer. That's what I'm

looking for. So how many people outside of your group have you have you watched play your game

so far? And has it been crazy making? Most recently, I got to watch someone very young do it.

And I liked the my favorite thing is when they discover the shock rooms and what they do is

they're like, you know, magical frisps and they go out and they criss-cross in the middle

of the air and then they come back and they make bang noises. And the thing is they go,

what's that? That's cool. Let me do that some more. Let me do it. And by the way, that's because

it was exactly the way I felt it. I would go, look at that. That's cool. Just can giggle

a lot in the office. It's like a mad scientist. A grown man who he does not get. He's known for

many animals. He's known for doing donuts to the office and lots of sugar. I think the donut

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