Beyond and hello and welcome back to IGN's weekly PlayStation show.

I'm your host, Max Scoville, and coming up, we are venturing into full spoiler territory for Ghost of Yote

with some of the team from Soccer Punch, so if you haven't finished the game yet, consider yourself worn.

This is Host of Yote.

This week, we are joined by my good pal Jada Griffin

and from Sucker Punch Productions creative director, Jason Connell and lead writer

Ian Ryan.

Welcome, guys. Thanks for joining us.

Hello, hello. Great to be here. Now, Jason, Beyond listeners, got Ian Ryan. Welcome, guys. Thanks for joining us. Hello, hello.

Great to be here.

Now, Jason, Beyond listeners, got to know you a little bit a few episodes ago. You're the creative director. You tell everyone what to do. You make the rules somewhat, maybe. But Ian, maybe you can give you a little context on how a video game gets written. I feel like there's sometimes confusion about that. Do you come to Jason with like a 3,000 page script

and say, make this into a video game,

or does Jason come to Jason with like a 3,000 page script

and say, make this into a video game? Or does Jason come to you with a playable game and say, make up what they're saying? Or is it like somewhere in the middle there? Somewhere, yeah, somewhere in the middle. Yeah, as much as sometimes writers might like to create it all ourselves. But I mean, really, especially at Sucker Punch, but in video games in general,

we really just come together.

So much of it's about talking back and forth. created all ourselves, but I mean, really, especially at Sucker Punch, but in video games in general,

we really just come together so much of it. It's about talking back and forth and creating it together,

and we find out, you know, especially at Suckerbunch, how can we tell the story interactively through

gameplay on the sticks, as we say? So it's constantly a conversation. How can we tell the best story we

can in the best game we can? Nice. Now, I mean, you had a little bit of a kind of double-edged sword here going in because, you know, Ghost of Sushima was an established property at this point. And, you know, you had some stuff to work from you, at some foundations, but you're obviously coming out here trying to do something that is ostensibly new.

It's a slow burn.

It takes a while.

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