J.D. in the Duffle Bag podcast myself, Chuckie online, we are sitting in a very

PUME-esque studio, which is a studio that I'm very familiar with that isn't

usually PUME-esque, but it looks kind of good today and I do like it a lot, but

the most important thing is I am sitting with somebody that I've known for a

long time, but I'm just not even gonna I'm not even gonna introduce it normally I'm

just gonna say I'm sitting with a goat. I'm sitting with a goat. I appreciate that

bro, it's scary. Look at it. How are you bro? I'm good man I'm good just taking

everything in the stride and now I'm saying it's been a journey I guess for

everyone this year. Facts. A life change in the journey you know I'm saying. Yeah

I guess I'm just taking it all in the stride. It's finally when I walked in here

yeah obviously we'd break in Bracelet Chava and that and it was like yeah

hold on one second. Yeah you know we normally see each other through the

year with this industry events or whatever we normally see each other. Yeah man

but things have been all right with you. Yeah bro man up and down you know just

last situations but just China. It's a lot of last situations. It's bro it's man I'm

I'm on a mad like spiritual journey so to speak. I see it. It's man I bro

you know I'm still learning myself. Oh listen let's talk about that. You do

know when you say like still learning yourself. Yeah I feel at this because I

like I was saying like on a pod a different pod yeah that like I've realized

now for me I'm doing a lot more unlearning then learning. Oh you go what I'm

saying. Like there's a lot of things that I just had in my mind and in my

subconscious and stuff like that that I was normal to me but then I'm

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