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Planet Money

Getting Out Of Prison Sooner

Planet Money

NPR

Business, News

4.629.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Shortening prison sentences might be about morals, but it's definitely about money. | Subscribe to our weekly newsletter here.

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0:00.0

This is Planet Money from NPR.

0:04.0

Alexis Nicholson has this picture from when she was eight years old.

0:11.0

So yeah, this picture means a lot to me. I've always held on to it even though she's a piece of paper from Jackie Cheese.

0:16.0

It's a picture from her eighth birthday party. There were a lot of people there, but this picture is special to Alexis because it's just her and her dad read J.

0:24.0

They're in a photo booth and their heads are up against each other smiling. We's at Jackie Cheese and I don't really it's hard to talk about it, but Alexis is Reggie's only daughter.

0:34.0

She's 25 years old now and she got this picture printed on a pink sweatshirt that she's wearing.

0:40.0

I've always been a daddy's girl, you know what I mean? So I've always been close to him even though he's always been far away.

0:48.0

She could say her dad was arrested not too long after that birthday party when he was just 25 years old.

0:54.0

According to transcripts, the police had shown up at Reggie's house in Oklahoma City because his home burglary alarm had gone off.

1:01.0

Reggie wasn't home for it, but when he got there his door was left wide open and police were waiting outside.

1:08.0

They had responded to the alarm and Reggie told the cops they could go in, look around.

1:13.0

And while they were looking around, they found a shoebox with some drugs, money and a gun inside.

1:21.0

And they arrested Reggie.

1:23.0

I do remember when I got told my grandma picked me up from school and she was just like, they got you dead.

1:32.0

And I knew she was talking about what I didn't want to believe in. So I asked her, I said, who has the police do?

1:44.0

The police had found 635 grams of crack cocaine in the shoebox, which is a decent amount.

1:51.0

It would be like two soda cans worth of crack, a little over a pound, enough to be considered trafficking. This was in 2003.

1:58.0

Now, if you were caught with this exact amount of drugs today in Oklahoma, the most prison time you could get is 20 years.

2:06.0

So a long time, but the laws were much harsher back then.

2:11.0

Especially because Reggie had been caught with drugs twice before. And that combination, two drug convictions, plus a trafficking conviction, it carried one sentence and one sentence only.

2:24.0

The rest of your life at the trial, the prosecutor told the jury that life meant they could give Reggie a million years if they wanted.

2:35.0

Mercy is for people who don't commit one crime after another, the prosecutor said.

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