Welcome to getting curious. I'm Jonathan Van Ness and every week I sit down for a 40 minute

conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious.

On today's episode I'm joined by USC professor of the practice and national and homeland security,

Dr. Errol Sothers, where we discuss how big of a threat is domestic terrorism,

how is the term domestic terrorism applied on a federal

level, is it balanced, and how do I survive a mass shooting situation. Honey, let's go.

So, doctor, how, I mean, to become a doctor is something,

don't you have to write like a really,

it's like a dissertation? And so so and what did you write yours on? I wrote

mine on homegrown by an extremism and strategies to engage the community to

reduce the risk of violence and radicalization.

Dang!

Well, let's just dive right in.

So, you don't need coffee or something or water?

I'm one of those.

Are you not a call?

You probably are too aware of the world, so you can't have coffee because it makes you two fucking stress and I'm up at 4 30 so like I've been up for a while dang why every day four 30? It's an old SWAT habit when I was on SWAT up at 4.

Oh, so you were on a SWAT team?

Yeah, I SWAT, yeah.

Okay, I have to say, based off of your gorgeous stature,

I'm not surprised, you are serving me muscles, you are serving me me I'm gonna get you out of here

if someone comes in here honey I feel safe I feel protect it all right so you're on the

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