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Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

GETTING CURIOUS | What Happened To Separation Of Church And State? with Dr. Lauren Turek

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

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Science, Self-improvement, Comedy, Education, Society & Culture

4.9 • 21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

A pastor, a president, and a foreign political leader step into a National Prayer Breakfast. What happens next? A whole lot of mingling between church and state. This week, Dr. Lauren Turek joins Jonathan to explore how evangelicals have influenced American politics—domestically and abroad—over the last half century. It’s a story of televangelism, missionary trips, and politicking of biblical proportions. Lauren Turek is an associate professor of history at Trinity University in San Antonio, TX, where she teaches courses on modern United States history, U.S. foreign relations, and public history. She is the author of To Bring the Good News to All Nations: Evangelical Influence on Human Rights and U.S. Foreign Relations, published with Cornell University Press. Lauren is currently at work on a book about the Congressional debates and alliances that shaped U.S. foreign aid funding during the twentieth century and is co-editing a Routledge Handbook on the history of religion and politics in the United States. You can follow Dr. Turek on Twitter @laurenfturek, on Instagram @laurenturek, and at laurenturek.com. If you’re curious for more, Dr. Turek recommends the following: Anthea Butler's White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America Kristin Kobes Du Mez’s Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation Melani McAlister’s The Kingdom of God Has No Borders: A Global History of Evangelicals Jeff Sharlet’s The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power Follow us on Instagram and Twitter @CuriousWithJVN to join the conversation. Jonathan is on Instagram and Twitter @JVN and @Jonathan.Vanness on Facebook. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Our executive producer is Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Zahra Crim. Our editor is Andrew Carson. Our theme music is “Freak” by QUIÑ; for more, head to TheQuinCat.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Getting Curious, I'm Jonathan Van Ness and every week you know the drill. I sit down for a gorgeous conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious.

0:10.0

Today's episode, so fucking good. I'm joined by Lauren Francis Turic, where I ask her,

0:14.8

how does the religious right shape US foreign policy?

0:20.6

Essentially, this is what happened.

0:22.3

I was mining my own business and I saw this like church

0:25.1

flyer about like a mission to Uganda and then that made me think about the

0:30.8

religious rights links to US government.

0:34.4

And actually not even like the religious right,

0:36.1

just like the evangelical community at largest connection

0:39.4

to government and legislation across the United States.

0:43.7

That's where this came from and then you were mining your own business

0:47.8

being our guest this week who's fucking amazing,

0:50.6

Lauren Francis Turek, who is an associate professor of history at Trinity University.

0:55.8

She is a diplomatic historian by training.

0:58.6

Her research interests include the history of U.S. foreign relations, religion, and the international

1:04.8

human rights movement. She's also the author of To Bring the Good News to

1:09.6

all Nations, Evangelical Influence on Human Rights and US foreign relations.

1:15.0

And what we want to know this week is,

1:17.0

how do evangelical Christians preach US foreign policy?

1:20.0

Or even like, how do evangelical Christians shape U.S. foreign policy and

1:25.2

shape policy right here in the U.S.

1:27.4

Lauren, how are you?

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