Welcome to getting curious. I'm Jonathan Venice and every week I sit down for a 40 minute

conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious.

On today's episode we're jumping right back in where we left off

with Associate Professor Pascal Arbos from the Department of Germanic Studies at the

University of Texas Austin where she goes on to answer, what happened after World War II?

Welcome back to Getting Curious, this is Jonathan Vanes, so as these, so in recapping

World War II, I guess the point that I'm trying to get to is that Germany was committing genocide and work and genocide against Jewish people, people, disabled.

That's where they start actually,

several years early, the so-called T4 program,

taking people from all of these different clinics

who they considered unworthy of life.

And they were people with sometimes really quite minor disabilities,

developmental or physical, and this is also the group on which they tried out gassing as a method of killing.

They did that in Germany proper, but they got enough pushback from the Germans to say, hey, this is my nephew,

sure my nephew.

Sure, my nephew had these and these issues.

But where did he go to?

And the clinics would just say, oh, died, and so forth.

And the rumor started going around, you know what?

It looks like these people are being killed, the so-called

euthanasia program. Youth in the United States, so-called because euthanasia of course,

presumes that you give permission. Nobody gave permission. This is murder. So it's also because of the pushback of these

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