GETTING CURIOUS | How Smart Is AI? (Part One) with Meredith Broussard

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

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🗓️ 15 March 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Every time you interact with a targeted advertisement, use a drop-down menu, or scroll through TikTok, you’re engaging with an algorithm. And these algorithms are anything but objective. This week, Meredith Broussard returns to the show for a special two-part episode about algorithms and artificial intelligence—and how they shape our daily lives. In part one, we’re learning all about chatbots like ChatGPT, the origins of algorithmic bias, and WTF Francis Galton has to do with all of this. Join us tomorrow for part two, featuring an in-depth discussion about gender and racial bias in algorithms, the current state of the tech industry, and the future of AI. Meredith Broussard is Associate Professor at the Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute of New York University and Research Director at the NYU Alliance for Public Interest Technology. She is the author of Artificial Unintelligence: How Computers Misunderstand the World (MIT Press). Her work has been featured in the New Yorker, the New York Times, the Atlantic, BBC, Wired, the Economist, and more. She appears in the 2020 documentary Coded Bias and serves on the advisory board for the Center for Critical Race & Digital Studies. Make sure to check out Meredith’s new book More Than A Glitch, out now from MIT Press. You can follow Meredith on Instagram and Twitter @merbroussard, and at meredithbroussard.com. MIT Press is on Instagram and Twitter @mitpress. Curious for more? Here are some people, projects, and other resources mentioned in this episode, all linked in the episode entry on jonathanvanness.com: Algorithmic Justice League (Joy Buolamwini) Algorithms of Oppression (Safiya Noble) Blueprint for an AI Bill of Rights DAIR Institute (Timnit Gebru) Deb Raji’s work Design Justice (Sasha Costanza-Chock) Mimi Onuoha’s work Race After Technology + Viral Justice (Ruha Benjamin) Rumman Chowdhury’s work Take My Hand (Dolen Perkins-Valdez) The Gender Shades Project The Markup (Julia Angwin) Under the Skin (Linda Villarosa) Weapons of Math Destruction + ORCAA (Cathy O’Neil) Follow us on Instagram @CuriousWithJVN to join the conversation. Jonathan is on Instagram @JVN. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Find books from Getting Curious guests at bookshop.org/shop/curiouswithjvn. Our executive producer is Erica Getto. Our editor is Andrew Carson. Our theme music is “Freak” by QUIÑ; for more, head to TheQuinCat.com. Curious about bringing your brand to life on the show? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to Getting Curious, I'm Jonathan Van Ness, and every week I sit down for a gorgeous conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious.
0:09.0	On today's episode, we are joined by not once, twice, but three-time returning guest Meredith
0:15.1	Broussard who we love so freaking much and we're going to be trying something a
0:18.8	little new this week a two-part release and part one we'll be breaking down the basics. That was just I don't know what that was y'all,
0:25.6	but I don't know if you heard that bang of the boob, but I'm recording in my apartment in New York City,
0:29.8	honey, and it is banging and boome sometimes. So in part one we will be breaking down the
0:35.1	basics on AI and tomorrow yes you heard that right tomorrow we will be back for a
0:40.5	more in-depth discussion of algorithmic bias and what the future holds for
0:44.7	artificial intelligence. I had the best time speaking with Meredith and I'm
0:48.8	excited for you to learn as much from her as I did. Without further ado, let's get into it.
0:53.7	Here's part one of our conversation
0:55.3	where we're asking.
0:56.6	How smart is artificial intelligence.
1:00.6	Hello, hello, my curious cuties and welcome back to getting curious, the
1:05.7	podcast where we come to learn, grow, and get inspired. I'm your host, Jonathan Van Ness,
1:11.8	and today's episode is going to be all about
1:14.4	tech and algorithms. Oh my! But before we dive into that, let's take a moment to
1:20.3	bask in the glory that is today. We made it. We're here, we're breathing, and we're
1:26.7	ready to learn something new. So let's get curious together, shall we? Now, I don't know about you, but technology and algorithms have
1:36.2	always been a little bit intimidating to me. They seem like these
1:40.2	mysterious things that only the tech wizards fully understand.
1:44.7	But that's exactly why I'm so excited to have our guest today, Meredith Brussard, join us.
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