GETTING CURIOUS | How Do Cops Get Away With Robbery? (ICYMI) with Professor Saleema Snow

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

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🗓️ 5 July 2023

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Imagine a situation where the cops can take your car, your house, and your cash. You could be waiting years to get your possessions back, without an attorney to help you. And the police can ultimately keep or sell your belongings—for profit. How’d they get away with it? Civil asset forfeiture. This Fourth of July week, we’re revisiting an episode with Professor Saleema Snow all about this damaging practice. A lot has changed since we first aired this episode in 2020 (including our audio quality!) but this topic is as relevant as ever. The Supreme Court recently decided to hear a case about civil asset forfeiture—Culley v. Marshall—next term. Professor Saleema Snow is a Professor of Law at the University of the District of Columbia David A. Clarke School of Law and the director of the school’s Legal Writing Program. At the time of this recording, she was also the President of Karamah: Muslim Women Lawyers for Human Rights, supporting the rights of Muslim women and children; an elected member of the D.C. Bar Board of Governors; and President of the National Association of Muslim Lawyers. You can follow Professor Snow on Twitter @SaleemaSnow. Curious for more? Here are some relevant episodes: How Many Hard Rights Can One Supreme Court Take? What Happened To Separation Of Church And State? What’s At The Heart Of Black Disability Politics? Who Does America’s “Child Welfare System” Serve? Follow us on Instagram @CuriousWithJVN to join the conversation. Jonathan is on Instagram @JVN. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Find books from Getting Curious guests at bookshop.org/shop/curiouswithjvn. Our executive producer is Erica Getto. Our producer is Chris McClure. Production support from Julie Carrillo. Our theme music is “Freak” by QUIÑ; for more, head to TheQuinCat.com. Curious about bringing your brand to life on the show? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to getting curious. I'm Jonathan Van Ness and every week I sit down for a
0:04.0	gorgeous conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that
0:07.3	makes me curious because curious is where it's at. We're off this week but we know that like just because we're off this
0:14.4	week doesn't mean that you're off this week. We know you're going places for
0:16.8	4th of July. We know you're doing the things. Maybe you're
0:19.6	stay-cationing, maybe you're vacationing, maybe you're vacationing, and so maybe you've got some car rights plan, some air trips we don't know so if you're
0:25.5	newer listener to getting curious you may have missed this episode it's one from our
0:29.1	vault I learned it so much from Professor Salima Snow. This is all about civil asset forfeiture and
0:34.8	essentially how the police are incentivized and get away with all the time like
0:40.1	legal robbery. It's still super relevant to everything that's going on now so take a
0:44.8	listen and happy 4th of July.
0:47.0	Welcome to getting curious, this is Jonathan Van Ness. I am very excited for this
0:57.0	week's episode and this is an episode that we wanted to talk about for a very
1:01.4	long time but we needed to find the perfect guest to talk about it, and we did.
1:07.0	So welcome to this week's episode, Professor Salima Snow.
1:10.0	She is the Professor of Law at the University of the District of Columbia and focuses on religious profiling, poverty law, and the intersection of poverty, gender, and access to justice.
1:22.7	And ultimately, the question that we're asking today
1:25.2	is, what is civil asset forfeiture and is it legal government
1:30.6	sanctioned theft?
1:31.8	So welcome, first, second, I don't know if
1:34.4	anyone heard that you got excited before we started recording but now I'm going to do
1:37.6	it to you. You, the colors that you are giving us, the smile, the necklace, the
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