Welcome to Getting Curious, I'm Jonathan Vanes, and every week I sit down for a gorgeous conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious.

On today's episode, I'm joined by Professor Madian Andrati, I ask her do spiders exoskeletons ever go out of style

Welcome to getting curious this is Jonathan Vanes I cannot wait for today's episode is like seriously so major,

it's a long time coming, who knew I was going to become a 30-year-old

who's obsessed with insects, arachnids, and spiders,

but it happened.

And alas, let's introduce our guest, who is Madian Andrade. Her research on spiders

centers on how the reproductive behaviors of males and females evolve through the interaction

of sexual and natural selection

and variable ecological context

and how this shapes individual phenotypes

and population level characteristics.

She's also the president and co-founder

of the Canadian Black Scientist Network, also known as CBSN,

with a PhD in neurobiology and behavior from Cornell University.

Maybe it has over 20 years of experience in science and research. Cornell University.

Maybe it has over 20 years of experience in science and research, teaching and outreach. Okay, first of all, that gave me chills on my thighs.

Like your resume, like, you better.

And I'm also, I wish people could see this

podcast and I'm sure you get this all the time your hair is so stunning

thank you thank you and your texture I did do this thing where I'm like trying to not compliment everybody on their looks because I'm like trying to be a more like, you know, journalist, but in this case I can't help it.

Your hair is literally too perfect and too stunning on you to like I'm a

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