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Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

GETTING CURIOUS | Are We Imagining A Better Future Into Existence? with adrienne maree brown

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

Sony Music

Science, Self-improvement, Comedy, Education, Society & Culture

4.9 • 21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2020

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Election Day is behind us, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t more work ahead. Consider this week’s Getting Curious a chance to reflect and recharge, as Jonathan speaks with the writer, editor, activist, and social justice facilitator adrienne maree brown. The two discuss adrienne’s work around emergent strategy and pleasure activism, consider what authentic community engagement looks like, and explore how science fiction can be an invaluable resource for shaping a more equitable future. adrienne maree brown is the author of Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good and Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds, and the co-editor of Octavia’s Brood: Science Fiction from Social Justice Movements. Her forthcoming book We Will Not Cancel Us: And Other Dreams of Transformative Justice is now available for pre-order. Follow adrienne on Twitter @adriennemaree and Instagram @adriennemareebrown, and keep up with her work at www.adriennemareebrown.net. Once you’ve finished the episode, make sure to check out adrienne’s podcasts How To Survive The End of the World and Octavia’s Parables. Find out what today’s guest and former guests are up to by following us on Instagram and Twitter @CuriousWithJVN. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Check out Getting Curious merch at PodSwag.com. Listen to more music from Quiñ by heading over to TheQuinCat.com. Jonathan is on Instagram and Twitter @JVN and @Jonathan.Vanness on Facebook. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Getting Curious, I'm Jonathan Vanes, and every week I sit down for a 40 minute conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious.

0:09.5

On today's episode, I'm joined by the writer, editor, activist, and social justice facilitator,

0:15.6

Adrian Marie Brown, where I ask her, are we imagining a better future into existence as we speak? Welcome to Getting Curious, this is Jonathan Van Ness.

0:27.0

I'm so excited to welcome our guests this week.

0:29.7

We need her, we need her work, we are so excited to welcome Adrian Marie Brown, who is the author of

0:37.4

pleasure activism, the politics of feeling good, and emergent strategy shaping change and changing worlds.

0:45.0

You also host a couple podcasts which we're going to get into a little later,

0:48.5

but on this podcast we always ask a question.

0:52.0

And this is one that we need to ask which is what future

0:56.9

can we imagine into existence and I think you're an integral person to ask.

1:02.6

So welcome, Adrian Marie Brown, how are you?

1:06.4

Thank you so much Jonathan Van Ness

1:08.9

for having me on your show.

1:10.4

It's a pleasure, pleasure, pleasure

1:12.1

to get to talk with you about all these things and yes I love this as an opening question for me because my work is all the

1:25.0

rooted in the legacy of the profit, Octavia Butler, and I think all about the future

1:27.0

and both the dystopian and utopian and all the things.

1:30.0

And in terms of the future we can imagine into existence I don't think

1:34.9

there's anything off limits I think that we can imagine a future into existence in

1:39.2

which each of us gets to have easy access to all the pleasure that is our birthright, that we all get to have easy access to belonging.

1:48.0

And I consider myself a scholar of belonging, I'm always thinking, how do we get in right relationship with each

1:54.4

other? How do we get back into a relationship of belonging to this planet that is

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