Welcome to Getting Curious, I'm Jonathan Van Ness, and every week I sit down for a 40 minute conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious.

On today's episode, I'm joined by six-time Olympic medalist and captain of the Fierce Five and Final Five gymnastics teams,

Ali Raisman, where I ask her, am I your favorite non-binary gardener slash gymnast?

So if you are driving, you know where I'm from, they call vehicles, vehicles.

So if you're in a moving vehicle, I need you to strap yourselves in and don't freak out and don't be

off course because we have like literally one of the most prolific guests of getting curious history

ever of all time and I'm freaking out so put your hands together and make so much

choice for Ali Raisman!

Hi! That was the best introduction I ever got my whole life! No! How are you? I'm doing

doing much better. I have to say that I'll be talking to you. I'm so excited that you're here.

I'm so excited to be on the podcast. I feel like we've been talking about this for so long.

We have.

Now, here's the thing.

I don't, so that's literally how I reacted the first time I met you on

FaceTime when I introduced you and like the first two times I saw you in real life. Now we are actual like

IRL friends which I think is kind of amazing. I never saw it coming that we would end up being friends and I'm so honored to be a friend.

I love being friends with you. I love our face times, love our conversations, love our hangouts in New York.

You are literally one of my closest. conversations love our hangouts in New York.

You are literally one of my closest phone friends of all time.

I feel like you and Michelle Kwan are right there for like,

I just, I have to pinch myself and my face hurts after I think about you too because I just can't believe that we I just I idolized you like since 2010. It's been a decade since I've been obsessed with you.

No, it's true.

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