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The Interview

Getachew Reda: Have Tigray's rebels surrendered?

The Interview

BBC

News, Politics, Government

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2022

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

One of the most costly conflicts of the 21st century may be over. Representatives of the Ethiopian government and Tigrayan rebels signed a peace agreement earlier this month. After two years of war, and perhaps half a million civilian deaths, Tigrayan forces are to give up their weapons; the Ethiopian army will take control of Tigray; and aid should begin to reach millions of desperate people. Stephen Sackur speaks to Getachew Reda, who signed the deal on behalf of the Tigray People’s Liberation Front. Was this in effect the TPLF’s surrender?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker.

0:04.4

My guest today recently returned to his home in Miqueli, capital of the Ethiopian region of Tigray,

0:10.7

having signed a document in South Africa which may just be a lifesaver for hundreds of thousands,

0:17.6

if not millions of people.

0:20.0

Gatachu Raida is spokesperson for and an executive committee member of the Tigray People's Liberation

0:27.4

Front.

0:28.1

On the face of it, the deal looks like a capitulation by the Tigrayan rebels.

0:33.2

They've agreed to disarm their forces within 30 days, to let the Ethiopian military take

0:38.5

control of their towns and cities and key installations. But many difficult issues remain

0:44.6

unresolved, not least a full accounting for the horrors and potential crimes committed

0:50.3

over the past two years. As for the TPLF, does it now have to acknowledge a catastrophic

0:57.4

strategic failure? Well, Gattachu Reda joins me now on a not terribly good line from Miqueli.

1:06.2

Welcome to Hard Talk. My pleasure, it's a pleasure to have you on the show.

1:11.5

Let me begin with a very simple question.

1:13.5

There you sit in Makele, the capital of Tigray region.

1:18.4

If you go outside right now, who is in control?

1:22.0

Is it the Ethiopian armed forces, the federal armed forces, or is it your forces from the TPLF?

1:31.3

It's our forces who are firmly in control of Magana.

1:35.0

Right. So this is a very delicate stage of the peace process, because over the next few days,

1:40.8

there is supposed to be a disengagement process and then full authority and control of

1:48.0

McKale and other key towns and cities, your airports and everything else, is supposed to be

1:53.6

handed over to the federal government and federal forces, right?

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